ScottRA21 wrote: I still have no clue what it is....
Me either.
DILYSI Dave wrote: I know what it is (with the help of Sir William Bounds).
Who's Sir William Bounds? And how did he help you figure it out? ...
MG_Bryan wrote:Woody wrote: Don't berkeley around with that.This. It's your choice to make an all, but I'd like to see a thread pop up about your restoration project involving this car rather than a thread about modifying it.
Meh... in the world of really valuable cars, they're not really worth much. In fact, my '70 Mach 1 is worth more (easily) and I've modified the crap out it. But I do think this car is somehow cooler than my Mach in a lot of ways, making it seem more valuable to me. But there I go again... what I think is valuable doesn't match the market. Oh well.
Still, as I said, it really does deserve a real restoration, and I suspect any "modifications" will be things that won't significantly effect originality (i.e. a hotter, bigger version of the same engine, poly bushings, better shocks, wheels, etc.). We would definitely never do something like adopting a Mustang chassis and suspension to the thing, though a nice 289 with a set of downdrafts might be cool.
An aside... I learned to drive stick in this car, so I've got some emotional attachments to it, so rest assured I'd never do anything to ruin it.
I was going to say Cortina, or possibly Escort. That pic can't be either of those, and since we are talking early sixties foreign market Fords, I think that rules out the Capri. I bet it has a Kent engine.
darkbuddha wrote:DILYSI Dave wrote: I know what it is (with the help of Sir William Bounds).Who's Sir William Bounds? And how did he help you figure it out? ...MG_Bryan wrote:Meh... in the world of really valuable cars, they're not really worth much. In fact, my '70 Mach 1 is worth more (easily) and I've modified the crap out it. But I do think this car is somehow cooler than my Mach in a lot of ways, making it seem more valuable to me. But there I go again... what I think is valuable doesn't match the market. Oh well. Still, as I said, it really does deserve a real restoration, and I suspect any "modifications" will be things that won't significantly effect originality (i.e. a hotter, bigger version of the same engine, poly bushings, better shocks, wheels, etc.). We would definitely never do something like adopting a Mustang chassis and suspension to the thing, though a nice 289 with a set of downdrafts might be cool. An aside... I learned to drive stick in this car, so I've got some emotional attachments to it, so rest assured I'd never do anything to ruin it.Woody wrote: Don't berkeley around with that.This. It's your choice to make an all, but I'd like to see a thread pop up about your restoration project involving this car rather than a thread about modifying it.
It's mostly just that's it's rather rare and really really cool without any help that makes me say it deserves restoration. There is at least one case where someone tried to make that car into a Mustang and I'm not a fan. Warming it over without hacking it up is hard to complain about since it would at least still be around for people to see and learn a bit of automotive history.
In regards to your aside, that's a cool car in which to have learned how to drive a manual. When you get into working on it, please post pictures.
In regards to the comparison with your Mach 1, Mustangs are really cool (I pretty much cut my teeth on them) and can be worth a ton of money, but everyone knows what they are. The car you're working with here is worth preserving just for the sake of more people being able to see it and learn what it is. That's just my opinion though, take it for what it cost.
ScottRA21 wrote: I still have no clue what it is....
Same here... my Google has failed me. Really curious to know what you may have.
Even as pictured, a rusted out GT350 with a verifiable VIN tag would be worth far more than Challenge money.
darkbuddha wrote:DILYSI Dave wrote: I know what it is (with the help of Sir William Bounds).Who's Sir William Bounds? And how did he help you figure it out? ...
"Sir William Bounds" would be me. As to how it was figured out, let's just say that my car ADD knows no end, so that leads to lots and lots of esoterica in my brain.
To those who don't know what it is, start with what you can see of the styling and what it reminds you of. ;)
-Bill
Okay, who wants to spill the beans... I'm giving permission. But I'm pretty sure that disclosing it will likely kill its potential as a Challenge entrant. I don't know why, but this car always seems to trigger folks' market evaluation mode.
I keep coming back to the Ferrari 275 and the 250, but I don't think they ever had engines that resembled Ford architecture.
And you'd DARNED WELL better not be trying to slip in a free Ferrari!
I give.
darkbuddha wrote: Okay, who wants to spill the beans... I'm giving permission. But I'm pretty sure that disclosing it will likely kill its potential as a Challenge entrant. I don't know why, but this car always seems to trigger folks' market evaluation mode.
Does spilling the beans result in a thread with lots of pictures of you restoring it?
SVreX wrote: I keep coming back to the Ferrari 275 and the 250, but I don't think they ever had engines that resembled Ford architecture. And you'd DARNED WELL better not be trying to slip in a free Ferrari! I give.
Well... it IS Italian-styled.
SVreX wrote: We like to think it's so no one will steal our "super secret" ideas, but it usually turns out so that we don't get egg on our face for never actually completing something.
Crap Paul! Have you been reading my diary again?? Uh, those midgets playing "Little Bo Peep and the Naughty Detective" meant nothing....
Damn. That car begs for an SHO V6 under the hood mated to a T5 breathing through some exquisite exhaust...
Javelin wrote: Damn. That car begs for an SHO V6 under the hood mated to a T5 breathing through some exquisite exhaust...
That would likely require a really ugly hood though. That Ford Yamaha V6 isn't dainty. Although it does fit in a big Healey pretty well... so maybe
Oh my! The teaser pic made me want to touch myself. The whole pic did the trick!
Can you post pics of the current condition. I have NO idea what it's worth and am sure i wouldn't even after seeing the pics but man I gotta see it! Was the designed by Pannin-Farina? Man that thing is stunning.
Toss the intake, go with polished ITB's or carb's.
And the underhood shots the googles found me show a TON of room, so maybe not...
MG_Bryan wrote: so purdy
So I see Fords hatred of american car buyers goes back farther than I thought.
DrBoost wrote: Oh my! The teaser pic made me want to touch myself. The whole pic did the trick! Can you post pics of the current condition. I have NO idea what it's worth and am sure i wouldn't even after seeing the pics but man I gotta see it! Was the designed by Pannin-Farina? Man that thing is stunning.
Designed by OSI (Officine Stampaggi Industriali)
I'm glad folks like it. So whatch'all think it's FMV is for the Challenge then? Yeah... that's what I figured too. Still, even if it wasn't competitive, it would've been a cool car to show up with, right?
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MG_Bryan wrote: Does spilling the beans result in a thread with lots of pictures of you restoring it?
Not any time soon... I talked to my pop tonight and it's gonna be on hold for a while I guess. Something about getting the damn Mach 1 finished and finishing up a couple Fiat projects. I do have a habit of overcommitting, starting a bunch of stuff, and then kinda letting it sit a while, so it seems fair to finish cooking what we've already got on the burner.
BTW, we "collected" a few cars over the years and about 25 years ago we put several in a dirt floor barn on a fairly remote bit of land in NC. The Osi was one of them. The barn is now semi-inaccessible due to being completely surrounded by 5-6" diameter trees that have grown up around it over the years. The only thing we know is that the car is pretty rusty from the peaks we can get through the gaps in the doors.
BTW, I thought about an SHO Yamaha V6... make good power and sound fantastic, but we figure a decently built common-as-dirt 2.9 Cologne V6 (the stock motor is a 2.3 Cologne V6) should fit easily, mate to the 4 speed, make adequate power, and sound pretty good. In fact, for drivability sake, the 2.9 came EFI in tons and tons of stuff in the late '80s, so that'd be an option using MS.
I do promise that whenever something happens with it, I'll post pics of the unearthing and the restoration.... hopefully in 2012.
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