Classic Mustang people, how's this one?

http://www.dcautoplex.com/mobile/mdetails.aspx?VID=267169049

Asking for a friend, I'm out of my element.

The three speed that came behind the six cylinder is an incredibly fragile transmission.

Sit in the passenger's seat and have someone pour a glass of water into the cowl vent. Look down to see if your feet are getting wet.

Can I ask exactly what your friend is looking for? A 65 mustang tends to be an emotional buy.

In reply to Stampie:

Lifelong desire plus a recent emotional event. He's not a car guy, I'm not really sure what about this particular car struck his fancy. He wants to use it as a daily this summer.

In reply to Woody:

It says 3spd auto, so shouldn't it be a c4? Or did the I6 cars get an oddball automatic transmission?

Other than that, I can't imagine paying 10 grandish for a 6 cylinders base coupe, is that really where the market is now? In the nineties the sixes seemed too high at 3-4 thousand for a driver grade, although even then a V8 driver could easily go past $10k for a HiPo or special options packages.

And there is no way to give a real meaningful evaluation without hands on the car.

In reply to steronz:

Has this guy ever spent time with sixties cars? He might find DDing one a rude awakening if he's only used to modern cars.

If he likes tinkering with purely mechanical things he might be OK, but aside from the required hands-on attention that they need, the driving experience is nothing like anything from this century, or the last 20ish years of the last one.

In reply to HappyAndy:

Three pedals.

It would need a very thorough inspection for me to feel comfortable dailying that car. At that age and mileage, bushings and such would be suspect, in my mind.

Some things on that car look to be 64.5 (steering wheel, 13 inch wheels) but a 64.5 would have a 170 and different hood and headlight surrounds. So some stuff has been changed somewhere down the line. Only a big deal if he is seeking concours correctnitude.

I used to DD a 64 Nova about 10 years ago. 4 wheel drum brakes, extra sloppy steering. Daily driving a 60's car isn't for everyone. Look at the size of those tires! But if driving that car would make him happy I would think the amount of rust would be a big factor in it's value

In reply to Woody:

The real early 6 cylinder manuals had the Deganham 3 speed gearbox, and all accounts are that they suck. I never drove one, so I can only go by hearsay. The spec sheet on the site says it's an AT, but clearly there are 3 pedals in the pics.

64 1/2 would not have backup lights, and that looks like an alternator, not a generator. I think a base late 65 could have had a 170" six, and 13" rims, but I could be wrong.

Remember, according to FoMoCo there were no such thing as 64 1/2 'stangs, they were early or late '65s. In reality there are tons of subtle changes that help an expert spot 64 1/2 cars. I was more into the '69/'70 body style, so I didn't pay all that much attention to the real early cars.

In reply to BlindPirate:

For ten grand it better have zero rust, good bushings and a tight steering box.

In reply to HappyAndy:

Yes it should.

Bottom line:

There's nothing special about the car in that ad.:

HappyAndy wrote: In reply to BlindPirate: For ten grand it better have zero rust, good bushings and a tight steering box.

Maybe if it were a less desirable later model car.

Some of the prices people pay for early Mustangs are absurd. Like $20k for a six cylinder car that was swapped to a V8 and the shell is ragged.

Been exposed to the breed over the last few years from hanging with the Minion (AKA "Mustang Pete"). I have seen a lot of very bad body repair under the new paint.

Crawl under the car and if it looks strange or has a lot of undercoat it probably has been hashed.

Look for the installation of new lower quarters and how well it was done. A butt weld would be ideal. Bonus points if original quarters, but then you need to make sure they are not full of mud and patches. Check the wheelwells for factory spotwelds versus smooth mudded over finish.

Older repairs or restorations to the underside tended to be flat sheet and braze just to keep the car on the road. Not proper restoration work. I would run from those cars as they have no future other than as parts cars or restoration projects.

Get under the dash and check the backside of the cowl. These things rust like crazy in the cowl area.

Check the shock towers from inside the engine compartment. They tend to develop cracks.

Are they claiming a restoration in the past? If so, I would expect pictures of the work. Nobody restores a car and does not take pictures.

Your buddy does not look like he wants a major project, so he should at least take the time to learn what to look for. There are tons of these out there.

With the amount of overspray I can see on those pictures while looking with my phone, that cannot be a good restoration.

I would pass.

looks like a decent car... for about $5k... then stick another $3k into it rebuilding the suspension and brakes along with a couple grand making sure the body is solid and it might even be a safe car..

serious question: what kind of a dealership posts up blurry pics of a car they are trying to sell unless they are trying to hide something? some of those pics look like those old tv shows where they would smear vaseline on the camera lens to make the woman that they were showing look hotter than they actually were..