Jamesc2123
Jamesc2123 Reader
10/25/11 4:10 p.m.

I need a pair of snow tires to go with the two I already have for a Suzuki Sidekick. I found a good pair for cheap on CL, but they are a slightly different size. Stock tire size is 215/65/16, while the pair i found online are 225/60/16.

The difference in overall diameter is 4/10 inch. Question is, can I run the Sidekick in 4wd with different size tires on each axle? Or, will it damage something like the transfer case if different tires are trying to spin it at different speeds?

ransom
ransom Dork
10/25/11 4:24 p.m.

Let's say these tires are roughly 24" in diameter. 0.4" is then about 1.7%.

At 30 mph, there will be about a 0.5mph difference between the axles. I would think your transfer case (and tires and diffs) would dislike that rather a lot on a continuous basis.

If you never engaged 4wd when you weren't on snow, I don't know how strangely it would behave.

iceracer
iceracer SuperDork
10/25/11 5:50 p.m.

If you only use 4wd when it is snowy, icey or offroad, you probably won't have a problem. Now on pavement, that is a whole different story. On another post, I told about the guy with an old Jeep. He put two ne tires on the rear, he complained of a loss of power when he used 4wd. His front tires were bald. One way to get around the problem is to put the same size tire on each side. The axles differential will take care of the difference.

petemc53555
petemc53555 New Reader
11/10/11 2:14 p.m.

What about different sizes on front of a FWD car w/o LSD? 185/65/14 vs 195/60/14 (~1/4" diameter or 7% different)

ransom
ransom Dork
11/10/11 2:23 p.m.

Good question.

I'd tend to think that the diff wouldn't care too much, but I certainly wouldn't want to drive it like that more than to get home: I expect the 7% smaller side will get equivalently more torque at the contact patch, for both accel and braking.

petemc53555
petemc53555 New Reader
11/10/11 2:41 p.m.

I'm gonna find out!

irish44j
irish44j Dork
11/10/11 4:18 p.m.

well, at least you'll have the hundred bucks you saved to pay to replace your transfer case......

new snow tires are pretty cheap.....I don't see any reason to risk messing up your drivetrain just to save a hundred bucks.

bigbens6
bigbens6 Reader
11/10/11 5:15 p.m.

Don't do it, or if you have too do the math and have the new tires shaved to an appropriate tread depth that your roll out is identical.... differentials are alot more $ than buying proper tires in the first place...

iceracer
iceracer SuperDork
11/10/11 5:22 p.m.

Main thing, even stock, it is reccomended to NOT drive on dry pavement in 4WD. Unless of course you have a center differential.

ransom
ransom Dork
11/10/11 5:24 p.m.
petemc53555 wrote: What about different sizes on front of a FWD car w/o LSD? 185/65/14 vs 195/60/14 (~1/4" diameter or 7% different)

It dawns on me... 1/4" is a lot less than 7% of a tire's height. 1/4" is about 7% of 3.5"...

ransom
ransom Dork
11/10/11 5:26 p.m.
irish44j wrote: well, at least you'll have the hundred bucks you saved to pay to replace your transfer case...... new snow tires are pretty cheap.....I don't see any reason to risk messing up your drivetrain just to save a hundred bucks.

Assuming this is in reply to petemc53555, he's talking front wheel drive; no transfer case.

I still think it sounds like a bad idea from a safety/driveability standpoint. But I don't think it should cause more than a bit more than usual wear on the spider gears...

mith612
mith612 Reader
11/10/11 6:32 p.m.
Jamesc2123 wrote: I need a pair of snow tires to go with the two I already have for a Suzuki Sidekick. I found a good pair for cheap on CL

Why not try to find a good set of four snow on CL and flip the two good ones you have? If all four are the same size (don't necessarily have to be stock size though) all will be good.

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