Basil Exposition
Basil Exposition Dork
9/17/14 10:57 a.m.

"BBW settings?" Where the fat girls are?

codrus
codrus HalfDork
9/17/14 11:10 a.m.
Basil Exposition wrote: "BBW settings?" Where the fat girls are?

brake by wire.

This rule is stupid.

TAParker
TAParker Reader
9/17/14 12:51 p.m.

F1 is attempting to reinvent itself......they're going through some issues right now for sure.....just hope they don't lose the fan base along the way

wbjones
wbjones UltimaDork
9/17/14 1:00 p.m.

viewership has been going down (for a variety of reasons) for the last 3-4 yrs

z31maniac
z31maniac UltimaDork
9/17/14 2:02 p.m.
TAParker wrote: F1 is attempting to reinvent itself......they're going through some issues right now for sure.....just hope they don't lose the fan base along the way

I've watched one race this year.

I didn't even watch my favorites of Monaco/Canada/Spa/Monza. I still read the news and keep up with what's happening, but I haven't been watching.

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson PowerDork
9/17/14 2:10 p.m.
wbjones wrote: viewership has been going down (for a variety of reasons) for the last 3-4 yrs

I posted up thread. The UK, the most fanatical of F1 viewers went pay per view for most races and China went to a different broadcaster. Those two changes have taken viewership from 550million to 450M and dropping. I think a big part of the issue is that CVC Capital /FOM arenot understanding modern viewing patterns and are trying to make all their money on selling the broadcasting rights to this highest bidder and ignoring the long game. The world is rapidly changing how it consumes media. Does anyone think that the traditional broadcast channels or even cable will exist as we know it in 10 years. More and more people all over the world are dropping cable and going to the internet. As FOM has every clip they can find taken down on YouTube they are driving more and more people to the world of torrents. They need to re-think they distribution model or they are going to see 450million turning in to less than 200million within a few short years.

CVC are already reducing their stake in FOM, so I can see a change coming in the post Bernie era.

wbjones
wbjones UltimaDork
9/17/14 3:22 p.m.

I knew I'd read that somewhere … couldn't remember if here or another forum

wbjones
wbjones UltimaDork
9/17/14 3:24 p.m.
Adrian_Thompson wrote:
wbjones wrote: viewership has been going down (for a variety of reasons) for the last 3-4 yrs
I posted up thread. The UK, the most fanatical of F1 viewers went pay per view for most races and China went to a different broadcaster. Those two changes have taken viewership from 550million to 450M and dropping. I think a big part of the issue is that CVC Capital /FOM arenot understanding modern viewing patterns and are trying to make all their money on selling the broadcasting rights to this highest bidder and ignoring the long game. The world is rapidly changing how it consumes media. Does anyone think that the traditional broadcast channels or even cable will exist as we know it in 10 years. More and more people all over the world are dropping cable and going to the internet. As FOM has every clip they can find taken down on YouTube they are driving more and more people to the world of torrents. They need to re-think they distribution model or they are going to see 450million turning in to less than 200million within a few short years. CVC are already reducing their stake in FOM, so I can see a change coming in the post Bernie era.

it seems that most businesses are doing that … i.e. sacrificing the long game for the advertising $$$ in the here and now

z31maniac
z31maniac UltimaDork
9/17/14 3:51 p.m.
Adrian_Thompson wrote:
wbjones wrote: viewership has been going down (for a variety of reasons) for the last 3-4 yrs
I posted up thread. The UK, the most fanatical of F1 viewers went pay per view for most races and China went to a different broadcaster. Those two changes have taken viewership from 550million to 450M and dropping. I think a big part of the issue is that CVC Capital /FOM arenot understanding modern viewing patterns and are trying to make all their money on selling the broadcasting rights to this highest bidder and ignoring the long game. The world is rapidly changing how it consumes media. Does anyone think that the traditional broadcast channels or even cable will exist as we know it in 10 years. More and more people all over the world are dropping cable and going to the internet. As FOM has every clip they can find taken down on YouTube they are driving more and more people to the world of torrents. They need to re-think they distribution model or they are going to see 450million turning in to less than 200million within a few short years. CVC are already reducing their stake in FOM, so I can see a change coming in the post Bernie era.

Not nearly as many people are dropping cable as it is made out to seem.

Tom_Spangler
Tom_Spangler SuperDork
9/17/14 3:52 p.m.
Adrian_Thompson wrote:
wbjones wrote: viewership has been going down (for a variety of reasons) for the last 3-4 yrs
I posted up thread. The UK, the most fanatical of F1 viewers went pay per view for most races and China went to a different broadcaster. Those two changes have taken viewership from 550million to 450M and dropping. I think a big part of the issue is that CVC Capital /FOM arenot understanding modern viewing patterns and are trying to make all their money on selling the broadcasting rights to this highest bidder and ignoring the long game. The world is rapidly changing how it consumes media. Does anyone think that the traditional broadcast channels or even cable will exist as we know it in 10 years. More and more people all over the world are dropping cable and going to the internet. As FOM has every clip they can find taken down on YouTube they are driving more and more people to the world of torrents. They need to re-think they distribution model or they are going to see 450million turning in to less than 200million within a few short years. CVC are already reducing their stake in FOM, so I can see a change coming in the post Bernie era.

The idea of charging people to watch rolling billboards driving between stationary billboards on TV just boggles my mind. Even the NFL isn't dumb enough to try that, and they can monetize anything.

wbjones
wbjones UltimaDork
9/17/14 6:41 p.m.
Tom_Spangler wrote:
Adrian_Thompson wrote:
wbjones wrote: viewership has been going down (for a variety of reasons) for the last 3-4 yrs
I posted up thread. The UK, the most fanatical of F1 viewers went pay per view for most races and China went to a different broadcaster. Those two changes have taken viewership from 550million to 450M and dropping. I think a big part of the issue is that CVC Capital /FOM arenot understanding modern viewing patterns and are trying to make all their money on selling the broadcasting rights to this highest bidder and ignoring the long game. The world is rapidly changing how it consumes media. Does anyone think that the traditional broadcast channels or even cable will exist as we know it in 10 years. More and more people all over the world are dropping cable and going to the internet. As FOM has every clip they can find taken down on YouTube they are driving more and more people to the world of torrents. They need to re-think they distribution model or they are going to see 450million turning in to less than 200million within a few short years. CVC are already reducing their stake in FOM, so I can see a change coming in the post Bernie era.
The idea of charging people to watch rolling billboards driving between stationary billboards on TV just boggles my mind. Even the NFL isn't dumb enough to try that, and they can monetize anything.

yet

alfadriver
alfadriver UltimaDork
9/17/14 8:24 p.m.

Really, I watch and only pay the cable bill. If it were PPV, I would not watch- there was a stretch of over a decade that I could not watch when F1 went from ESPN to Speedvision. I survived.

I can live without F1. Its entertaining, for sure. But not needed. I've even attended 4 races live- 2 in the US, and 2 in Europe.

wbjones
wbjones UltimaDork
9/18/14 5:53 a.m.

that's me …. I enjoy the races, but if it went to PPV that'd be the last of it

wvumtnbkr
wvumtnbkr Dork
9/18/14 8:49 a.m.

I have a confession.

I think Monaco and Monza are the 2 worst races on the calendar. They are both parades for the most part.

I think Canada is awesome.

That is all.

wbjones
wbjones UltimaDork
9/18/14 11:04 a.m.

Monaco for sure … nowhere to pass

z31maniac
z31maniac UltimaDork
9/18/14 11:18 a.m.
wvumtnbkr wrote: I have a confession. I think Monaco and Monza are the 2 worst races on the calendar. They are both parades for the most part. I think Canada is awesome. That is all.

Monza usually has tons of passing, it's very similar to Canada in the "lots of long straights and heavy braking zones," this year may not have been exciting, but usually it's a great race.

Vettel taking his first win, in the rain, while still with Toro Rosso!

z31maniac
z31maniac UltimaDork
9/18/14 11:19 a.m.
wbjones wrote: Monaco for sure … nowhere to pass

I like Monaco for the spectacle of it. I'd like to go sometime just because.

stroker
stroker SuperDork
9/18/14 11:39 a.m.

I haven't watched a single minute of F1 this season for the first time that I can recall. I'm without cable and I can't get to a sports bar at the times the races are on TV. I can't say I'm missing it much.

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson PowerDork
9/18/14 12:23 p.m.

In reply to stroker:

Unfortunatley you are missing a lot. you could go and search torrents if you were the sneaky type

84FSP
84FSP New Reader
9/18/14 12:47 p.m.

Despite all my misgivings with the rule changes it has actually been a good season to watch F1. With exception of Mercedes, there has been a ton of shakeups and good driving done by folks that aren't the same old faces. Pretty psyched that I managed to fit this weekend's Singapore race into a business trip already planned. Will post some pics if I can get anything good...

wbjones
wbjones UltimaDork
9/18/14 6:29 p.m.
z31maniac wrote:
wbjones wrote: Monaco for sure … nowhere to pass
I like Monaco for the spectacle of it. I'd like to go sometime just because.

I can buy that … I just don't think it's much of a race where the only real chance at passing is in the pits … and with no gas now everyones pit stops are in the 2.7 - 3.2 sec range … unless a berkeleyup of course

I remember several yrs ago … it was either Damon Hill or David Coulthard… whomever, they had qualified something like 3 - 4 sec quicker than one of the back markers … due to a problem in the pits, he came out behind that back marker … even though that much faster, was never able to pass … meh …

codrus
codrus HalfDork
9/18/14 6:53 p.m.
wbjones wrote: I remember several yrs ago … it was either Damon Hill or David Coulthard… whomever, they had qualified something like 3 - 4 sec quicker than one of the back markers … due to a problem in the pits, he came out behind that back marker … even though that much faster, was never able to pass … meh …

It was DC, trying to pass Bernoldi in the Arrows. Yes, it was Monaco, but then again DC was never the best at passing people either...

wbjones
wbjones UltimaDork
9/18/14 6:57 p.m.

thanks … I knew I remember it … just couldn't remember what I remembered

it's hell getting old

oldsaw
oldsaw UltimaDork
9/18/14 7:02 p.m.

In reply to codrus:

A judicious use of blue-flags and penalties for ignoring them takes care of that problem. That's something the FIA has finally got right. That and field of drivers that are miles better than the likes of Bernoldi.

z31maniac
z31maniac UltimaDork
9/18/14 7:47 p.m.
oldsaw wrote: In reply to codrus: A judicious use of blue-flags and penalties for ignoring them takes care of that problem. That's something the FIA has finally got right. That and field of drivers that are miles better than the likes of Bernoldi.

Was the Arrows a lap down?

(I don't remember)

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