Trans_Maro wrote: I figured at the very least "failure to stop for a police officer" was cheaper than "reckless driving" or "excessive speed" would have been. Shawn
What makes you think the tickets would be either/or?
Trans_Maro wrote: I figured at the very least "failure to stop for a police officer" was cheaper than "reckless driving" or "excessive speed" would have been. Shawn
What makes you think the tickets would be either/or?
I'm taking it easy on a section of road known for speed traps. Around the corner comes a sportbike leaning hard going roughly 2.5x the speed limit. I figure that I'm clear and speed up. The cop around the corner takes me down. I go "what about the bike?" He says "I can't catch him. YOU I can catch". 
Not sure he broke down... if you watch that video.. the end is the same as when he hit the brakes to jump the divider.
If I remember the 'real' story, the kid actually got away. His pop found out about his escapade and turned him in . . .or something like that.
They faked it really good for the TV show . . .
spdracer315 wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZghPKVDELhA I like this one. 15 y/o kid who played too much need for speed in a m3. Cop in a lt1 camaro. Only thing that brought this kid down was typical german car quality...
Ah, so the LT1 is "computer chipped" to give it all that power. 
That was an E30 M3, right? Blurry...
spdracer315 wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZghPKVDELhA I like this one. 15 y/o kid who played too much need for speed in a m3. Cop in a lt1 camaro. Only thing that brought this kid down was typical german car quality...
lol, not a German car fan huh?
That video has been shown for a good 10 years and proven that the car "breaking down" was just when he jammed on the brakes and pulled a u-turn. I heard he got away...you don't see video of the end of the chase do you? Those cameras don't stop running when the car comes to a stop.
Personally if I had to outrun a cop at highway speeds I'd much rather be in a car designed to run at 150mph...
I ran once when i was young and dumb. I had my brand-new '02 RSX-S for a couple of months (this was maybe late Sept 2001) and was headed to a party (2 hours away) one night with my roommates in the car and more buddies following us. A Prelude tried to race us...I refused. Then a WRX...nope. Then another WRX...go away!
I finally gave in when an ITR (A-pillar gauge pods, exhaust, the whole deal) kept pestering me. We ended up doing ~125 in a 55, when we blew past a speed trap with me slightly in front and my buddy's 2.5RS ~200 yards behind. The ITR slammed on his brakes, as did my buddies, who were behind the cop when he pulled out. I kept it planted and then coasted/engine-braked into a group of 18-wheelers about 1/4 mile ahead.
We got the play-by-play via cell phone...the cop almost passed the ITR but then slammed on his brakes and pulled him over (see: gauges + fart can). We got off at the next exit, planning to hit a McDonald's or something...but nothing was there. No civilization at all, and suddenly a cop pulls out behind my friend's car. I'm soiling my pants right about now, thinking "radio!" and realizing my roommates brought rum-and-coke roadies for themselves (thanks guys). We kept driving along, and decided to get back on the highway rather than driving around looking suspicious. But amazingly the cop didn't follow us, and I drove at 5 under the rest of the way.
that was my first and last "street race."
spdracer315 wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZghPKVDELhA I like this one. 15 y/o kid who played too much need for speed in a m3. Cop in a lt1 camaro. Only thing that brought this kid down was typical german car quality...
The "15 y/o kid" or whoever was driving, actually got away. The TV show reused and manipulated footage to make it look like the car broke down, but it's really just footage from earlier in the chase. Watch the footage at 2:08 to 2:12, and then watch the footage from 3:42 to 3:52. It's the same footage, except the later part is zoomed in to get rid of the timestamp data (to hide that it's the same footage) and it's slowed down to make it look like the car was coasting to a stop.
When this video came out, the BMW boards were really disappointed that the car broke down, and then someone noticed the above mentioned reusing of footage, and then someone else remembered reading about this chase in a newspaper and found an online article that said that the car got away (I think the chase was called off after the near miss with the two police cars). I've tried to find the forum posts where this was all discovered, but couldn't.
Edit: damn I'm slow. Several people have already mentioned this.
Trans_Maro wrote: Came around the bend to find a cop car at the side of the road. Officer saw me while he was doing #1 and was madly zipping himself and running for the car at the same time.
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They will call off chases in many places if they endanger other drivers. I used to work at a large fitness center that had a loooong row of small cubbyholes along the wall for keys. A few kids figured out they could sneak past the desk, steal the keys and use the alarm fob to find the car. They stole at least 5 over several months with several pursuits called off due to danger. They were finally caught when an employee nabbed one in the lot about to get in a new (at that time) Corvette. Nutty thing is the kid didn't have a license because he was under 15 years old.
Flip side of this is that the local PD has shot and killed at least 2 different motorists who tried to leave traffic stops.
gamby wrote:spdracer315 wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZghPKVDELhA I like this one. 15 y/o kid who played too much need for speed in a m3. Cop in a lt1 camaro. Only thing that brought this kid down was typical german car quality...Ah, so the LT1 is "computer chipped" to give it all that power.
yeah, it had the Corvette motor with a chip to give it more power than you could get if you were a civilian.. the kid was lucky that it didn't have the twin turbo option and 3 stages of NOS option.
MrJoshua wrote: Flip side of this is that the local PD has shot and killed at least 2 different motorists who tried to leave traffic stops.
LOL was fixing to say...sounds like Alachua county. But wait...it is Alachua county. Geez This place scares me.
novaderrik wrote:gamby wrote:yeah, it had the Corvette motor with a chip to give it more power than you could get if you were a civilian.. the kid was lucky that it didn't have the twin turbo option and 3 stages of NOS option.spdracer315 wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZghPKVDELhA I like this one. 15 y/o kid who played too much need for speed in a m3. Cop in a lt1 camaro. Only thing that brought this kid down was typical german car quality...Ah, so the LT1 is "computer chipped" to give it all that power.
Notice the narrator said the E30 M3 had 240 horsepower, too? Somebody didn't research that quite right.
well, the EVO III models developed 235.. but the standard run of the Mill E30 M3 developed 195hp... still enough to embariss the cops cars.
I guess the narrator looked up M3 and got the E36 numbers
miatame wrote:spdracer315 wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZghPKVDELhA I like this one. 15 y/o kid who played too much need for speed in a m3. Cop in a lt1 camaro. Only thing that brought this kid down was typical german car quality...lol, not a German car fan huh? That video has been shown for a good 10 years and proven that the car "breaking down" was just when he jammed on the brakes and pulled a u-turn. I heard he got away...you don't see video of the end of the chase do you? Those cameras don't stop running when the car comes to a stop. Personally if I had to outrun a cop at highway speeds I'd much rather be in a car designed to run at 150mph...
Actually my dad works for Mecedes Benz and i love them, but we still know what they really are! haha. Looking at some older AMG's and M's right now for when i get back from Iraq.
I just assumed he broke down cause thats what the host says. But hey if he got away-Props!
Running from the cops happens occasionally when you own a sportbike, but I'm not saying it's a good idea. I know of a few guys that are now dead or vegetables from it. Around here they try to pull us over but won't chase you anymore if you ride a sportbike because they are tired of people almost killing themselves. So as long as they don't see your license plates you are better off just to run for a second then take it the heck home.
TuffWork wrote: Running from the cops happens occasionally when you own a sportbike, but I'm not saying it's a good idea. I know of a few guys that are now dead or vegetables from it. Around here they try to pull us over but won't chase you anymore if you ride a sportbike because they are tired of people almost killing themselves. So as long as they don't see your license plates you are better off just to run for a second then take it the heck home.
10 years ago, the state troopers around Tampa would chase you and wait till you screwed up, then follow the ambulance to the hospital. The sheriffs office down there wouldn't chase you over 90mph. We used to make a run from pier 60 in clearwater to ybor on friday nights, in a group of sometimes 30+ bikeks, the county deputies would literally follow us and pick up the guys who screwed up, the rest of us they would let go.
Running from the cops happens occasionally when you own a sportbike, but I'm not saying it's a good idea.
Sounds like a good idea to me, in spite of what you say.
I know of a few guys that are now dead or vegetables from it (owning sportbike)
You're already in the frying pan, jumping through the fire isnt exactly a stretch. Id run on a bike.
kreb wrote: I'm taking it easy on a section of road known for speed traps. Around the corner comes a sportbike leaning hard going roughly 2.5x the speed limit. I figure that I'm clear and speed up. The cop around the corner takes me down. I go "what about the bike?" He says "I can't catch him. YOU I can catch".
In that situation you need to be sure you can outrun the bike.
I was up in northwest Arkansas visiting my grandmother, and decided to go for a drive in my FD. Found this nice road up in the mountains, started having a good time with the corners, and next thing I know, this shiny happy person comes up behind me on a crotch rocket, and passes me on a double yellow. I decided to kick it up a notch, and stay with him, came up on a passing zone, and passed him, a few corners later, we blow by a trooper on the side of the road facing the wrong way. About a mile and a half later, I can't see the trooper anymore, so I pull off into a rest area, pull towards the back and decide to take a walk for a bit, a minute later the guy on the bike is doing the same thing, he proceeds to ask me "WHAT KIND OF CAR IS THAT?""I've never had someone keep up with me through these hills!" It was amusing to say the least.
Vigo wrote:Running from the cops happens occasionally when you own a sportbike, but I'm not saying it's a good idea.Sounds like a good idea to me, in spite of what you say.I know of a few guys that are now dead or vegetables from it (owning sportbike)You're already in the frying pan, jumping through the fire isnt exactly a stretch. Id run on a bike.
i had a friend who bought that way, missed an important turn at 90+ mph with a cruiser in pursuit. The concrete barrier wasn't nearly as soft as he was. they had a full sized coffin at his funeral, but they probably could of used a shoe box. most of what was left of him got rinsed down the gutter when the fire department cleaned up the mess with their truck hoses...
Way back in the NC mountains running from the cops is a tradition as old as cars... how do you think NASCAR got its start?
Out there (70's and 80's when I was driving... sure it was even easier in the 50's and 60's), you didn't have to worry much about the radio (there wasn't much of anybody for them to radio to); just getting far enough ahead to be able to take a turn they couldn't see.
And how the chase began was important, too. If you were running fast and met a cop, the time for him to get turned around was often the only headstart you needed. And with no front tags, his getting a plate was unlikely.
On the other hand, running through a speed trap gave you no margin and usually him your tag; you might as well pull it over.
With the mountain roads, handling, braking, and nerves were more important than raw power. You could also count on the cops NOT taking undue risk to catch you if the only crimes were speeding/evading.
Of course, around town it was almost more of a game... if they could run you out of town, they'd generally drop the chase... figuring that in the countryside you were more likely to do yourself harm than anyone else, an assumption that more than one friend died proving accurate....
My "escape" was back in the 1980s so I assume the limits have expired... All you need is an FZR1000, a bit more balls than brains and the forethought to be riding without a license plate in the first place :)
njansenv wrote:Trans_Maro wrote: I figured at the very least "failure to stop for a police officer" was cheaper than "reckless driving" or "excessive speed" would have been. ShawnWhat makes you think the tickets would be either/or?
Simple, no proof of how fast I was going.
As for failure to stop, he was relieving himself and heading back to the car, I didn't realise that meant "stop for the nice officer". That's what the lights and siren are for.
I'm sure you never did anything stupid when you were young either.
Shawn
gamby wrote:spdracer315 wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZghPKVDELhA I like this one. 15 y/o kid who played too much need for speed in a m3. Cop in a lt1 camaro. Only thing that brought this kid down was typical german car quality...Ah, so the LT1 is "computer chipped" to give it all that power.
That video is old as ass. The general story at the time was that the kid got away and his dad turned him in. If you watch carefully the scene where the cop pulls up behind him at the end when he "breaks down" is the same scene as in the middle of the video where he fakes the stop and runs again.
Not sure if its true but I want to believe it because of that snarky motherberkeleyer who does the voice for that show. I want to believe he is an shiny happy person who fakes stuff just so I can hate him more.
I almost outran a cop car by accident once, but when I heard the siren approaching after I was stopped at a roundabout for a while, I pulled over because a quick glimpse at my car is enough to identify me where everyone knows everyone.
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