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mthomson22
mthomson22 Reader
11/21/12 2:24 p.m.

I purchased this 93 FD with the intent of repairing the minor deer damage and driving it. Right now it's en route to Banzai Racing in Pierceton Indiana for a mechanical inspection prior to doing any driving/bodywork.

It's got a fresh rebuild on the rotary from these guys http://rx7.com/ and a new OEM auto trans, and a phonebook sized folder of receipts.

But...some things have changed and I'm seriously considering parting with it. Honestly though I have no idea what to ask. Any help?

pics: http://picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/24241728

thanks, mark

yamaha
yamaha Dork
11/21/12 2:28 p.m.

Its an automatic, so that pretty much means its worth less than 7k....and its damaged at the moment, so as it sits, thats a $3000 car. If everything you say is done. Just too much that would need done to make it right.

4cylndrfury
4cylndrfury UltimaDork
11/21/12 2:33 p.m.

Its clearly not worth very much at all, so why dont you just let me take it off your hands for you so its no longer trouble for you...I wont even charge you a disposal fee or anything, ya know, cuz Im a nice guy and all...

mthomson22
mthomson22 Reader
11/21/12 2:36 p.m.
yamaha wrote: Its an automatic, so that pretty much means its worth less than 7k....and its damaged at the moment, so as it sits, thats a $3000 car. If everything you say is done. Just too much that would need done to make it right.

If that's true I'm berkely'd. The rebuild was near $10k with all that was done. So needless to say I have a touch more than $3k invested already.

yamaha
yamaha Dork
11/21/12 2:42 p.m.

Theres one thats had a bit worse of a smack in Richmond for $4k and its a manual car......they still want too much for it.

My advice is to fix it and keep it, and enjoy it....you'll never get the money you've put into it back out of it.

fidelity101
fidelity101 Reader
11/21/12 2:59 p.m.

how many miles on it, what trim level is it, is it a clean title or salvage. These are important questions. You can buy a full race PP prepped all new components balanced and ported etc etc etc from mazdatrix for 10k. WTF is in your block, gold?

mthomson22
mthomson22 Reader
11/21/12 3:13 p.m.

90k, Touring package, clean title. I haven't reviewed the receipts yet. They are in the car.

fidelity101
fidelity101 Reader
11/21/12 3:21 p.m.

touring is good, R1 is preferred. With the clean title that will help but I would say as in the condition it sits (especially if you got receipts for the engine build) 9k.

Hell, you can't find a FD rolling chassis for 7k on craigslist longer than a few days.

If there was no deer, I'd say about 11k to 11.5k

a manual in the same condition maybe 12.5-14k and R1 about the same maybe another 1000 or so.

yamaha
yamaha Dork
11/21/12 3:23 p.m.

There was a roller just sold in indy for under a grand.....no drivetrain though.

fidelity101
fidelity101 Reader
11/21/12 3:40 p.m.
yamaha wrote: There was a roller just sold in indy for under a grand.....no drivetrain though.

Was the rear end in it?

also, I imagine that was gone within hours.

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac MegaDork
11/21/12 3:50 p.m.

I would have bought the E36 M3 out of an FD roller for a grand. You don't want to know what i would have done with it.

DILYSI Dave
DILYSI Dave MegaDork
11/21/12 3:53 p.m.

I don't know dick about these cars, but my spidey sense says that Yamaha is closer than Fidelity.

pres589
pres589 SuperDork
11/21/12 3:54 p.m.

In reply to 92CelicaHalfTrac:

F2T?

fidelity101
fidelity101 Reader
11/21/12 4:07 p.m.
DILYSI Dave wrote: I don't know dick about these cars, but my spidey sense says that Yamaha is closer than Fidelity.

I used to sell used cars and I'm a rotard.

also as crazy at it sounds, its true.

Not to mention for 9k you can buy a 2005 rx8 manual with 65k on it, but a 93 FD manual 100k miles clean title no cancer, running driving go for about 12-15k.

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac MegaDork
11/21/12 4:09 p.m.
pres589 wrote: In reply to 92CelicaHalfTrac: F2T?

Yep. Figured either you or JamesMcD would get it. Though... i've heard James talk about doing the swap himself.

mthomson22
mthomson22 Reader
11/21/12 4:43 p.m.

If it matters it is the twin turbo with an Apexi control, and with all of the naggling oem underhood issues addressed.

SlickDizzy
SlickDizzy UltraDork
11/21/12 4:58 p.m.

I would value that at $5-7k to the right buyer. A lot of people will buy a clean car with a blown motor, but runners with body damage are usually a harder sell for some bizarre reason.

cutter67
cutter67 Reader
11/21/12 5:03 p.m.

i will give you $5,000.00 for it right now if you are being upfront with the work that was done. i will take it this week

email me mark@ctsinc.org

mthomson22
mthomson22 Reader
11/21/12 5:03 p.m.

I'd part with it for $6500, prior to any expenditures at Banzai. Or just keep it and drive it. Damn Auto ADD

cutter67
cutter67 Reader
11/21/12 5:05 p.m.
mthomson22 wrote: I'd part with it for $6500, prior to any expenditures at Banzai. Or just keep it and drive it. Damn Auto ADD

email me mark@ctsinc.org and we will talk

yamaha
yamaha Dork
11/21/12 11:11 p.m.
SlickDizzy wrote: I would value that at $5-7k to the right buyer. A lot of people will buy a clean car with a blown motor, but runners with body damage are usually a harder sell for some bizarre reason.

Because you don't know what a slightly crumpled panel leads to......it could be fine, it could be 10hrs worth of bodyshop work to fix a tweaked structural item. At least with a blown drivetrain it's easier to tell what is wrong.

rotard
rotard Dork
11/22/12 12:02 a.m.
SlickDizzy wrote: I would value that at $5-7k to the right buyer. A lot of people will buy a clean car with a blown motor, but runners with body damage are usually a harder sell for some bizarre reason.

FD's have held their value quiet well. I have NEVER seen a running FD for sale for less than $5k. If it were a five speed, he could probably get $7k for it easily. "OMG, I'm on GRM, I bought a mint condition (insert car here) for $.86, some pocket lint, and a Busch Light!"

fasted58
fasted58 UberDork
11/22/12 12:27 a.m.

thought ya meant Fire Department

... nevermind

JamesMcD
JamesMcD Reader
11/22/12 9:21 a.m.

That car is hard to value because it has a lot of good and bad going on simultaneously.

An ignorant person who can't drive a stick but has always dreamed of having an FD and thinks that a "good one" goes for $15-17k "all day long" might think they are getting a super deal at $7k. Those people are out there.

Another guy might see the car as having a lot that needs to be made right to fit his tastes (doesn't like the tan interior, or the BOSE snake and new carpet it requires to replace, knows the true cost of the required body work and paint, the cost of properly converting to manual, etc.) and so would only offer $3500 or so.

I say keep it, if you don't really need to sell.

Or part it out.

Knurled
Knurled SuperDork
11/22/12 10:26 a.m.
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: I would have bought the E36 M3 out of an FD roller for a grand. You don't want to know what i would have done with it.

13B N/A and rallycross the snot out of it?

Nevermind, that's what I'd do with it.

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