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Colin Wood
Colin Wood Associate Editor
3/12/24 4:33 p.m.
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Hyundai announced the 600-horsepower Ioniq 5 N back in July of last year, but now we have a price for the performance: $66,100.

For reference, that’s $8700 more than a top-trim, dual-motor, 320-horsepower Ioniq 5, and is also $4500 more than the 576-horsepower Kia EV6 GT–which features…

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Colin Wood
Colin Wood Associate Editor
3/12/24 4:36 p.m.

I'll also point out that for only $33,300 more, you can upgrade to a base model Porsche Taycan–but you'll have to settle for only 402 horsepower.

pinchvalve (Forum Supporter)
pinchvalve (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
3/12/24 4:42 p.m.

At 60 months, that's only $1,304/mo with excellent credit. So...my mortgage. 

J.A. Ackley
J.A. Ackley Senior Editor
3/12/24 4:53 p.m.

Tesla Model S is comparable. The base model has a bit faster zero-to-60 time (3.1 to 3.25), but sells for $74,990.

I can't find anything that compares with that zero to 60 at that price point.

We can do the whole EV vs. ICE thing, but I'm comparing apples to apples here.

Flynlow
Flynlow Dork
3/12/24 5:41 p.m.

I really want to love it.  It's so close.  But I think I'll hold out for a GTI-type (and sized) car.  Whether its made by VW, Hyundai, or someone else. 

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard Publisher
3/12/24 6:09 p.m.

Maybe a Mustang Dark Horse? That's a similar amount of money and performance, but a very different type of car and nearly a second slower to 60 with the stick.

An M3 starts at about $78k, and again is slower.

This might be a tough car to beat for the money, even if it's still too expensive. 

Tom1200
Tom1200 PowerDork
3/12/24 6:52 p.m.

In reply to Tom Suddard :

And as well as being expensive it's fat. 

 

thashane
thashane Reader
3/12/24 8:30 p.m.

I bet these are going to break some records. Looks like they spent significant engineering time to make these fun to drive, from my experience with the Elantra N, I anticipate they'll be just that plus some surprises.

Coniglio Rampante
Coniglio Rampante Reader
3/13/24 12:29 a.m.

It's certainly supercar quick in a sprint.  I have no idea how it handles.  But yeah, at $66K, it's hard to beat in that limited metric of 0-60 if that's your thing.  

Hyundai/KIA have come a long way in recent years regarding performance and luxury vehicles.
 

Coniglio Rampante
Coniglio Rampante Reader
3/13/24 12:40 a.m.
Flynlow said:

I really want to love it.  It's so close.  But I think I'll hold out for a GTI-type (and sized) car.  Whether its made by VW, Hyundai, or someone else. 

That's where I'm at, too.  Honestly, when I'm online I feel like the only person on Earth that would struggle to notice an appreciable difference between a 0-60 sprint in 3.1 seconds vs 3.25 seconds or whatever.

A GTi sized vehicle that gives a bit of performance, maybe just around 4-5 seconds to 60, and can turn, stop, provide decent range, and cost accordingly would be enough for me.

For those reasons, I'm waiting to the release of the road going version of the VW ID.GTI concept or whatever it's called.

We'll see.  In the meantime and back on topic, good on Hyundai for bringing another N product to the market.

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
3/13/24 11:35 a.m.

I dig it. Think it looks awesome as well. Unfortunately, $70k for a vehicle that with insurance would be hundreds more than my mortage won't be happening. 

But I'm glad they're building it and I hope it's successful. 

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
3/13/24 11:35 a.m.
Tom1200 said:

In reply to Tom Suddard :

And as well as being expensive it's fat. 

 

What EV isn't?

The0retical
The0retical UberDork
3/13/24 12:01 p.m.
Colin Wood said:

I'll also point out that for only $33,300 more, you can upgrade to a base model Porsche Taycan–but you'll have to settle for only 402 horsepower.

2021 RWD Taycan's have depreciated into this range and AWD Taycan's are just a bit above it. Yes used isn't new, but I'll take the 3 year old Taycan that someone else farted in the seat first over one of these any day of the week.

STM317
STM317 PowerDork
3/13/24 12:14 p.m.

I think this thing is closer in size, weight, form factor and power to something like a Jeep SRT, and the price is pretty comparable to that.

Colin Wood
Colin Wood Associate Editor
3/13/24 12:15 p.m.
The0retical said:
Colin Wood said:

I'll also point out that for only $33,300 more, you can upgrade to a base model Porsche Taycan–but you'll have to settle for only 402 horsepower.

2021 RWD Taycan's have depreciated into this range and AWD Taycan's are just a bit above it. Yes used isn't new, but I'll take the 3 year old Taycan that someone else farted in the seat first over this one of these any day of the week.

You weren't kidding. A quick search showed at least a handful of used Taycans in the high $60s, low $70s.

Flynlow
Flynlow Dork
3/13/24 10:19 p.m.
Coniglio Rampante said:
Flynlow said:

I really want to love it.  It's so close.  But I think I'll hold out for a GTI-type (and sized) car.  Whether its made by VW, Hyundai, or someone else. 

That's where I'm at, too.  Honestly, when I'm online I feel like the only person on Earth that would struggle to notice an appreciable difference between a 0-60 sprint in 3.1 seconds vs 3.25 seconds or whatever.

A GTi sized vehicle that gives a bit of performance, maybe just around 4-5 seconds to 60, and can turn, stop, provide decent range, and cost accordingly would be enough for me.

For those reasons, I'm waiting to the release of the road going version of the VW ID.GTI concept or whatever it's called.

We'll see.  In the meantime and back on topic, good on Hyundai for bringing another N product to the market.

Preach, brother! 

J.A. Ackley
J.A. Ackley Senior Editor
3/14/24 3:58 p.m.

I'm curious to see how this car does on track. Looking forward to seeing it at our test track, hopefully soon.

nderwater
nderwater MegaDork
1/10/25 11:53 a.m.

Hyundai just announced a new Drift King edition:

 

confuZion3
confuZion3 UltraDork
1/10/25 12:19 p.m.

In reply to nderwater :

Something looks off about that picture. The car looks gigantic. Or... the driver standing next to it looks like a 3/4 scale man? The tires are half his height... that can't be right, is it? Is that car really that large?

calteg
calteg UltraDork
1/10/25 12:57 p.m.

They're very large cars. Lot of optical design tricks to fool you into thinking this SUV is more wagon-sized. It's not.

Interestingly enough, rumors floating around that Lamborghini is benchmarking their next car against this Hyundai 

Spearfishin
Spearfishin HalfDork
1/10/25 1:11 p.m.
J.A. Ackley said:

I'm curious to see how this car does on track. Looking forward to seeing it at our test track, hopefully soon.

Having driven one one track, and more importantly, having ridden in one being piloted by a very competent pro driver: They're way more capable than their weight and size would lead you to believe. 

Spearfishin
Spearfishin HalfDork
1/10/25 1:17 p.m.
confuZion3 said:

In reply to nderwater :

Something looks off about that picture. The car looks gigantic. Or... the driver standing next to it looks like a 3/4 scale man? The tires are half his height... that can't be right, is it? Is that car really that large?

Scale is definitely off. I have a picture standing next to the Ioniq N when I attended the "N Driving Experience" at Sonoma Raceway and the roofline is below my shoulder, and I'm 6'0". I'll have to disagree with calteg. They're not that big. That's some weird photoshop going in on the posted pic above. I'll edit this to add that photo later when I can find it.

dculberson
dculberson MegaDork
1/10/25 1:20 p.m.

In reply to Spearfishin :

That man could be 5'3" it's not like Koreans are known for their towering heights and smaller race car drivers can be faster...

Spearfishin
Spearfishin HalfDork
1/10/25 1:25 p.m.

In reply to dculberson :

I know...but look at me in the pic I just added. I'm barely 165lbs and 6'. It looks off. But maybe I'm wrong?

OR, here's another comparison point: We test drove one compared to our current Golf Sportwagen and the Ioniq was deemed too small relative to the GSW by both wife and I. There's nothing behind the rear seats. It's taller, for sure, and when we parked them side by side, it had a little more wheelbase, but was essentially the same overall length. We wanted it to be SUV sized...she wants some more space for child rearing gear. And it was going to be a lateral move, at best, in that department.

confuZion3
confuZion3 UltraDork
1/10/25 1:36 p.m.

Yeah, look at the doors. They look way too big compared to that guy. Maybe it's the camera perspective. I'm sure they didn't photoshop the guy onto the car--they could have just had him stand there. I think of the thing more as a wagon than an SUV. I will pay more attention next time I see one. Then again, I think all vehicles now are slightly larger than 1:1 scale anyway, so who knows.

I think they're cool, though. Misha Charoudin took one around the Ring, and it was very fast. Very capable. 

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