Vigo
Vigo PowerDork
6/5/16 12:33 a.m.

I've mentioned in several posts that I own a Lexus GS450h, but I never made a big point of it because I didn't have much to show for it other than written opinion for the first several months. I've had it since last October and recently i've been getting some pics of it in action so I can now make a thread that isn't just 'words more words etc'.

2009 Lexus GS450h. The h is for HYBRID. This was the first hybrid that sold itself as a performance/tech/premium thing vs a pure economy gain. LaFerrari, Porsche 918, Mclaren P1, Koenigsegg Regera? Most of the top hypercars of the world are now trading on a concept that this car was the original proof of: Hybrid for performance.

It's still a luxury car first and foremost. It's quiet, comfortable, and had impressive tech for the time that it launched even aside from the drivetrain (although my car doesnt have the radar cruise option which makes me sad).

I came to it sort of by accident, as I was originally just planning to upgrade out of our 07 Prius (still have it) into a Chevy Volt. As it happened, I typed hybrid and a Volt-appropriate price cap into Craigslist and happened to come across this. As far as my own personal car-owning ambitions, i had forgotten they existed. I liked CT200h's and they were holding ridiculous value so I didn't even stop to think there would be newish $55k (originally) Lexus cars in my price range. Once i refreshed myself on the specs, i had to go check it out and ended up thinking this was a way more exciting change of pace than a Volt would be. I still like Volts but they could not do everything that i do with this car.

What can a GS450h do that a Volt would not do as well? They have similar seating capacity, the Volt has more cargo space, and the Volt is vastly more fuel efficient! Well, the main two things are: 1. Race sports cars, and 2. Tow project cars. My first and so far only mod was a hitch!

Tows great! I'm going to pick up an engine/trans combo with the little trailer tomorrow. This utility factor is probably not accelerating the timeline for fixing either one of my project trucks! Did i mention it will average 20mpg towing a car? It'll do about 29mpg empty on straight highway and averages about 24 with my wife commuting in it every day.

And you gotta have the heated and ventilated seats going on those long cross-Texas trips.

The stereo is the best factory stereo i've experienced in a car. I'm sure there are many better, but not in any car i've owned!

What about racing? Well, this thing has 340hp of peak combined output. Except... it's functionally a CVT, so unlike most cars that make their peak power for a few hundred rpm and then shift while averaging significantly less over a real WOT run, this thing goes to peak power and stays there, which makes it faster than it already sounds. Lexus claimed a 5.2 second 0-60 for these things, and that's definitely traction limited which is why i've already got some 285s for it.

Anwyay, i've had a really hard time getting good races in this thing. I've smoked some slower stuff that wasn't really a good comparison to begin with. I blew off a Focus ST which was at least generally considered a 'fast car'. Tonight i finally had a VERY good race with a BMW 135i. Going from 70-130 i put several car lengths on him! It had paper plates so hopefully i wasn't crushing any new-to-me dreams. I'm sure he'll end up liking his new car as much as i like mine. When i first got this car i saw a youtube video comparing it favorably to a 535i in acceleration. Well, forget that. Put that twin-turbo mill in the lightest car bmw has sold here anytime recently and it's still not enough.

Yes that's right, better use your cornering ability to flee from my hybrid tow pig!

So in conclusion, I love it and am now going to go check out LS600hl's and see if that's an upgrade to plan for!

mazdeuce
mazdeuce UltimaDork
6/5/16 6:46 a.m.

There are some hidden gems that are still flying below the radar of car guys. Well bought.

Knurled
Knurled MegaDork
6/5/16 7:23 a.m.

I found that a Mazda B4000 could get over 20mpg towing an RX-7 on a steel bed tandem axle trailer. So could an Impreza 2.5RS flat-towing a Rabbit.

Neither one has NEARLY the style, though!

The LS600h is an entirely different breed of cat. It's a Mercedes S-class built by Toyota, so all of the big heft and solidity but Toyota sterile characterlessness. They're like driving unobtrusive bank vaults (as opposed to S-classes, which are like driving ostentatious bank vaults)

jstein77
jstein77 UltraDork
6/5/16 9:16 a.m.

Nice car, but I frown on the street racing thing. 130 on a public highway is not a smart idea. Get your kicks in a legal venue.

https://youtu.be/RH6xmyjCi7o

sesto elemento
sesto elemento SuperDork
6/5/16 9:29 a.m.

Glad you're enjoying this awesome car.

Woody
Woody MegaDork
6/5/16 9:56 a.m.

That wheelbase looks incredibly comfortable. What's the buy-in for one of these things?

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
6/5/16 10:31 a.m.

I did not expect this. Well played.

Trackmouse
Trackmouse Dork
6/5/16 10:41 a.m.

Yeah 130 is a bit much... All races can be decided at 100mph. If you can decide at that, pull over, let that guy pull over too gif he doesn't, it wasn't meant to be), and then tell him to meet you at such and such drag strip and to bring his wallet.

Vigo
Vigo PowerDork
6/6/16 9:56 a.m.
That wheelbase looks incredibly comfortable. What's the buy-in for one of these things?

I have seen GS300s in this body style as low as 8k, v8 GS430s as low as ~11k, and hybrids are closer to 13-16k. All of them have roughly the same comfort/luxury factor. The only one that's significantly different is that a GS300 is significantly slower than a 350/430/450h/460 which are all quick to fast.

Also one of the best things about highway racing is that you dont have to listen to anybody run their mouth. Just like y'all probably don't want to hear me talking about my perfect record of 100% success not hurting anyone with any car i've ever driven at any speed for the past 17 years.

Aspen
Aspen Reader
6/6/16 11:08 a.m.

I shopped these for a bit last year before I bought the E91 wagon. I guess the small trunk kinda turned me off and there was no roof rack option too. Then I started looking at the next generation 2013+ 450h and they were significantly better and prettier, but too much $$. Maybe I should have bought one.

Enjoy.

Vigo
Vigo PowerDork
6/6/16 2:03 p.m.

The trunk is tiny!! I LOOOOOOOVE the current body style 450h (now F Sport if you desire) but yes, still too expensive, and unfortunately i think even with depreciation they'll be in the same price range as the cheapest used Tesla Model S's which is a whole new quandary of choice. I am definitely going to watch the value of the newer body style as time goes on.

Vigo
Vigo PowerDork
6/11/16 10:55 p.m.

Seems like Saturday nights are the only time all week that I get to drive after 10pm when all the frisky drivers are out (on a closed course in Mexico).

Having said that, neither a 2016 Nissan Maxima (300hp) or a ~2014 Hemi Charger (368hp) match the accelerative potential of a 10 year old design of Lexus hybrid.

dean1484
dean1484 MegaDork
6/12/16 11:36 a.m.
jstein77 wrote: Nice car, but I frown on the street racing thing. 130 on a public highway is not a smart idea. Get your kicks in a legal venue. https://youtu.be/RH6xmyjCi7o

I am sure it was KPH.

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