In reply to cutter67:
If you are serious and I was close enough I would so try and work a deal with you.
In reply to cutter67:
If you are serious and I was close enough I would so try and work a deal with you.
Jake wrote: Do it up like Denzel's from Training Day. :)
or better yet, Ace Ventura:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnD9DR9Ndzc
I love those cars. My father had a 71 and 72 that he raced in the Spectator class at Freeport Speedway. They were supposed to be street legal though he had big block from a Nascar Modified he got a deal on when they changed over to small blocks and a locked 12 bolt rear so he didn't drive it far. They have the engines set back a bit farther than a Chevelle so the have a bit more rear weight.
Wally wrote: I love those cars. My father had a 71 and 72 that he raced in the Spectator class at Freeport Speedway. They were supposed to be street legal though he had big block from a Nascar Modified he got a deal on when they changed over to small blocks and a locked 12 bolt rear so he didn't drive it far. They have the engines set back a bit farther than a Chevelle so the have a bit more rear weight.
it's not that the engine is "set back"- it's in the same place relative to the firewall as a Chevelle- it's that the front suspension was pushed forward.. the extra wheelbase is all between the firewall and front wheels, so you can damn near do a full length oil pan sump.. but header fitment might be iffy if you run a big block and think you are gonna use cheap and readily available Chevelle headers due to the lower control arm mounting points on the frame being in the way..
rebelgtp wrote: In reply to cutter67: If you are serious and I was close enough I would so try and work a deal with you.
I am serious if anyone wants it just email me mark@ctsinc.org
I am so jealous! Wish I could find a car like that!
In 1974 my dad got his first duty station to Thailand. My mom stayed in FL with her parents while he was gone. My dad had a 1972 Triumph TR6 and my mom had a 1973 VW Beetle. Through letters, no phone calls, no email, my mom said she was going to sell one of the cars because she didn't need both. She ended up selling both the TR6 and the Beetle and getting a 1972 Monte Carlo, yellow with a black vinyl roof. My mom is maybe 5'1". There is an old pic of here and the Monte Carlo, standing next to it she looks tiny.
And of course my dad and I have never let her live donw selling the TR6 for the Monte Carlo... Never.
I am lucky you are on the other side of the country from me.
Oh and the Monte in Training Day was a G Body one from 79 I believe.
well we dug her out today. took a couple of hours to get tires filled. had to pull wheels to free brakes. got her on the truck and back to garage. gave her a bath and drain fuel tank put some fresh gas in her cleaned the points and guess what she runs and drives!!!!!
that's great, more so for a Pgh car
Damn, that looks solid!
Man, it's begging for the Bobby Allison livery and some retro-NASCAR touches...
The other reason the engine looks so pushed back was the availability of the I-6.
It cold be a great project for someone its for sale $2013.00 come and get it
pittsburgh pa
contact mark@ctsinc.org
wow that looks even better than believed, cleaned up real nice.
EvanR wrote: The other reason the engine looks so pushed back was the availability of the I-6.
the engine looks like it's so far back because the front of the nose is about a foot and a half farther forward than the Chevelle, which was due in part to the longer wheelbase but mostly because of the HUGE front overhang on these cars, which is what made them so desirable for demo derbies.. the 2 barrel 350 was the base engine in the Montes until the 305 came out in 76- no 6 cylinder option at all. in the first gens, there were a couple of 350s (2 barrel and 4 barrel), a 400, a 396 (actually 402), and a couple of 454s ( LS5, and some even say the LS6 was an option) available. i think everything but the base 350 came with a 12 bolt rear end and front disc brakes. you could get 4 speed manuals with every engine, but they were pretty rare. i've only ever seen one that went thru our group of people that was set up for a manual trans that still had the pedals and the hole in the floor, but it had an auto in it.. we tore apart about a dozen 70-72 Montes back in the late 80's and early 90's, so we developed a pretty good understanding of how these cars were built... all but one of them had the 300hp 350, TH400 trans, and the 12 bolt rears, the other one had the base 2 barrel 350, TH350 trans, and 10 bolt rear. all had disc brakes. we just tore the motors out and sent the rest to the crusher- we were young and stupid...
looking at the pic of the engine, that looks like a later model carb on it.. it has the wrong style of choke- the first gen Montes used a remote style choke that had the coil on the exhaust crossover on the intake manifold, with a linkage rod going up to the butterfly. but that doesn't mean the engine isn't original- it's probably a 2 barrel 350 that got a 4 barrel put on sometime in the last 4 decades.. if the last 6 digits of the car's vin are stamped on the pad behind the alternator, then it's the original engine and you can look up the 2 or 3 digit engine code to see what the engine is.
also, that looks like a flex fan... get it out of there before it tries to kill you... get the proper 7 blade clutch fan that sits half in/half out of the shroud.
pop out the back seat and see if the build sheet is there- they can be behind a door panel or above the gas tank, but that's where we always found them on the Montes we took apart.. that sheet will tell you when it was built and what all parts were put in it, if it hasn't rotted away or been made into a home for a family of rodents..
Am I the only one starting a piggy bank to buy one of Cutter67's cars?
midknight wrote: Am I the only one starting a piggy bank to buy one of Cutter67's cars?
Nope, I am doing it too. I know that day is going to come when he's going to find something good to sell that I really really really want.
I've already mapped it. I'm 450-miles one-way to Pittsburg. That's roughly $350 in fuel for me to drive out and bring something back. When the cost of one of his cars + my expenses/time = a car I can bring back, enjoy for a while, then flip myself for a few $$, I'll be making a road-trip!
petegossett wrote: I've already mapped it. I'm 450-miles one-way to Pittsburg. That's roughly $350 in fuel for me to drive out and bring something back. When the cost of one of his cars + my expenses/time = a car I can bring back, enjoy for a while, then flip myself for a few $$, I'll be making a road-trip!
Not me. He seems to be in DC quite a bit. I can fly one way for $79 and drive home in the car. 
I know y'all can take up a collection and make it my wedding present lol.
In all seriousness very cool sled I wish I could find one by me.
Hmmmm, im from pittsburgh and need to go back at some point to visit
In reply to novaderrik:
in '72 they switched to the VIN that has engine code as the 5th character. engine codes for '72 were:
H = 350-2bbl 165 hp
J = 350-4bbl 175 hp
U = 402-4bbl 240 hp
W = 454-4bbl 270 hp
my 72 was VIN 1H57J2R536317, and on the VIN pad of the block (pass side head mounting surface, in front of cylinder head) the stamp was "12R536317" but the 1 might have been a J. if cutter's car had a white vinyl top, they would be twins.
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