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Looks like no more left foot braking in stock classes

>>"Toyota hired a consulting firm to study whether electronic problems could cause unintended acceleration. The firm, Exponent Inc., released an interim report that has found no link between the two.

Toyota plans to install brakes that can override the gas pedal in future models and many vehicles already on the road. The safety measure is meant to prevent the unintended acceleration that has caused some Toyota drivers to speed out of control."

Not many current Toyotas competitive in stock class anyway.

RandyS wrote: ...Toyota plans to install brakes that can override the gas pedal in future models and many vehicles already on the road...

I've never driven any vehicle with properly working brakes where the brakes couldn't override the gas pedal. What am I missing?

bravenrace wrote:

RandyS wrote: ...Toyota plans to install brakes that can override the gas pedal in future models and many vehicles already on the road...

I've never driven any vehicle with properly working brakes where the brakes couldn't override the gas pedal. What am I missing?

Dumb drivers

Not necessarily. If you're going 70 in an over-powered, under-braked car (like a Venza, in the CU video) and the throttle sticks wide open, you will overheat the pads pretty quickly. This is especially true if you apply them lightly at first, then a little heavier, and a litlle heavier, etc., etc. In that case, you might never get it all the way stopped before the brakes fade away completely.

Full throttle brake test.

I think the experts are underestimating the power of panic.

So does this mean that future Toyotas will be incapable of the burnout?

jstein77 wrote: Not necessarily. If you're going 70 in an over-powered, under-braked car (like a Venza, in the CU video) and the throttle sticks wide open, you will overheat the pads pretty quickly. This is especially true if you apply them lightly at first, then a little heavier, and a litlle heavier, etc., etc. In that case, you might never get it all the way stopped before the brakes fade away completely.

^^^ A couple of years ago I used my DD loaded 99M3 at road America. Steel brake lines, HT10 F, HP Plus Rear, Fresh ATE yellow fluid. Toyo RA1 tyres (good braking traction.) I could not get that heavy pos, hauled down quickly enough, to be quick. It was the most unpleasant HPDE I have done to date.

So I can see where anything that weighs above 3300lbs is under braked, especially when people don't want, or are scared, by brake noise, or brakes with good initial bite. Most people don't want to feel a thing behind the wheel, the automakers comply, and so we have these bloated behemoths speeding down the free blissfully unaware. We won't even mention the countless clueless punters who use the brake pedal as a footrest.

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