My understanding is that for weight loss with those types of drugs, most people will need to be on them for the duration.
Exercise Is Medicine.
Aerobic exercise is a proven mood elevator.
My understanding is that for weight loss with those types of drugs, most people will need to be on them for the duration.
Exercise Is Medicine.
Aerobic exercise is a proven mood elevator.
The benefits seen in this drug are bananas. (Good bananas)
In reply to Fueled by Caffeine :
Thank you for sharing the article...at the very end was a reference to a United Airlines study where they estimated that if their passengers, on average, lost 10 Lbs., it would reduce what they spend per year on fuel by 80 million dollars. 
Remember when Viagra came out and the incidence of VD among seniors shot up...here we go again.
I'm pissed off that my dads doctor won't prescribe it. Yeah, we understand that if my dad doesn't fix his diet and do some strength training, the weight loss will be temporary, but I'm sure that once he's lost weight and experienced the benefits of that, coupled with pressure and help from my sisters and I that he'll make the changes. His Doctor's response has been terse: "Those medications are for diabetics and you aren't diabetic." Then why the hell did Medicare specifically approve Wegovy for weight loss? I sent the doc an e-mail and he won't even respond. Douche.
In reply to Kreb (Forum Supporter) :
Time for a new doctor? Ordinarily I'd be in agreement with his present doctor but it sounds like your Dad needs to lose some weight to be able to move more. I'm aware that changing doctors is much easier said than done but it might benefit your Dad in the long run.
Warning - Sample size of one, not statistically valid, blah, blah, blah.
I've noticed that if I can drop just a few pounds, my motivation level rockets up as I'm seeing progress & exercise is easier & honestly, most importantly, my self-esteem or whatever it would best be called improves which creates an expectation of success.
I do think the old fashioned method of reducing caloric intake and increasing caloric burn is the best but pragmatically, a little kick start, OMHO, will send some percent of obese people in a permanently good direction.
RX Reven' said:In reply to Fueled by Caffeine :
Thank you for sharing the article...at the very end was a reference to a United Airlines study where they estimated that if their passengers, on average, lost 10 Lbs., it would reduce what they spend per year on fuel by 80 million dollars.
This is why airlines/aerospace OEMs will pay silly $$ to shave small amounts of weight from just about anything. I work in aerospace interiors and the optimization effort put into things most of us would deem "trivial" is staggering.
In reply to CrustyRedXpress :
To add to your point, I also think it's worth noting that losing weight has not only a direct impact on many aspects of overall health, but also has the effect of making doctors more willing to diagnose and treat other, unrelated issues. It's not unusual for an overweight person to see a doctor about a health concern and have it waved off as a result of their weight. Most overweight people have at least one story about this happening to them, and from personal experience I can say that I've definitely noticed a difference in how much my health concerns were taken seriously when I was thin vs times when I was overweight, despite having almost the same fitness routines and dietary habits during those times (surprise! my weight gain was related to medication, not to my actual personal choices).
Waking this thread since my wife and I are considering trying to lose weight using semaglutide in conjunction with diet changes and exercise.
We've had success with keto when we both were on it at the same time, but it wasn't sustainable. I'm back to 230lbs and have been fluctuating between 220-230 with tracking.
Those that have done it, how long did the side effects last?
Any experience with compounded vs brand name?
We thinking doing it through WW, since our insurance doesn't cover it, so it would be compounded
Kreb (Forum Supporter) said:I'm pissed off that my dads doctor won't prescribe it. Yeah, we understand that if my dad doesn't fix his diet and do some strength training, the weight loss will be temporary, but I'm sure that once he's lost weight and experienced the benefits of that, coupled with pressure and help from my sisters and I that he'll make the changes. His Doctor's response has been terse: "Those medications are for diabetics and you aren't diabetic." Then why the hell did Medicare specifically approve Wegovy for weight loss? I sent the doc an e-mail and he won't even respond. Douche.
I'll tell you what my nurse practioner told me. She prescribed me Zepbound to help me kick start the very much needed weight loss, I haven't started taking it yet as I have surgery on Tuesday that, from what I understand, is going to be a very painful recovery.
She originally prescribed me Mounjaro......insurance denied it because I'm not diabetic. But they approved Zepbound for weight loss. They both have the same active ingredient (terzepatide). My NP told me the drug rep came in and said they have now approved Terzepatide for liver disease, my NP asked if she knew why? She said no, the NP told her "Because that way they can extend their patent on the drug."
Once I get about 25 lbs off, then I'll have another surgery. So the sooner I can get off the weight the better.
z31maniac said:She originally prescribed me Mounjaro......insurance denied it because I'm not diabetic. But they approved Zepbound for weight loss. They both have the same active ingredient (terzepatide).
Similar story here. I was on Ozempic for a while, then the insurance denied it because I'm not diabetic. Doc prescribed me Wegovy, and they approved it. Both are semaglutide, both are made by Novo Nordisk. The only difference is the name. It's pretty silly, but I guess these are the games the pharma and insurance companies play. I'm just glad I can still get the stuff.
In reply to Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter) :
Games. This is how they extract "value."
theee recent transcript from United health's earnings call tells about how they save patients money by arguing down inflated glp1 prices. In the same breath they say that glp1's cost a tenth of what they cost in the us in Europe. So the whole thing artificial to me. Drug makers charge whatever they can for a drug for the market. Then this 3rd party puts itself in the middle, argues down the inflated prices to less than inflated prices. They extract a fee for this "service" and on we go.
wait did I just describe realtors?
https://www.fool.com/earnings/call-transcripts/2025/01/16/unitedhealth-group-unh-q4-2024-earnings-call-trans/
Fueled by Caffeine said:
wait did I just describe realtors?
Or car dealers.
Nicole Suddard said:In reply to CrustyRedXpress :
To add to your point, I also think it's worth noting that losing weight has not only a direct impact on many aspects of overall health, but also has the effect of making doctors more willing to diagnose and treat other, unrelated issues. It's not unusual for an overweight person to see a doctor about a health concern and have it waved off as a result of their weight. Most overweight people have at least one story about this happening to them, and from personal experience I can say that I've definitely noticed a difference in how much my health concerns were taken seriously when I was thin vs times when I was overweight, despite having almost the same fitness routines and dietary habits during those times (surprise! my weight gain was related to medication, not to my actual personal choices).
I got prescribed various steroids for some lung issues and my Dr seemed a bit perturbed by a tiny weight gain.
You prescribed me steroids, they can cause me to gain a few pounds ffs
Fueled by Caffeine said:In reply to Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter) :
Games. This is how they extract "value."
theee recent transcript from United health's earnings call tells about how they save patients money by arguing down inflated glp1 prices. In the same breath they say that glp1's cost a tenth of what they cost in the us in Europe. So the whole thing artificial to me. Drug makers charge whatever they can for a drug for the market. Then this 3rd party puts itself in the middle, argues down the inflated prices to less than inflated prices. They extract a fee for this "service" and on we go.
wait did I just describe realtors?
https://www.fool.com/earnings/call-transcripts/2025/01/16/unitedhealth-group-unh-q4-2024-earnings-call-trans/
This is one thing I don't understand. We were looking at our claims a few weeks ago (also have United Health and they didn't submit some billing properly).
My fiance has RA and has monthly infusions for it. They charge the insurance ~$13,500 per infusion. Then there is a $9600 "plan discount" and then insurance pays $3600 and we pay nothing. Thankfully her infusion this month was a few days ago so it already has taken care of the yearly deductible.
I paid the hospital upfront for a discount. So I'm only spending $448 out of pocket for my outpatient surgery on Tuesday.
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