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Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter)
Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter) PowerDork
1/16/23 10:47 p.m.

In reply to Appleseed :

Shorsey sums it up, doesn't he?

Russian Warship, Go Berkeley Yourself
Russian Warship, Go Berkeley Yourself PowerDork
1/16/23 11:00 p.m.
mtn said:

In reply to Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter) :

she opened herself up to this 

I can't believe I'm still reading this sort of thing in 2023

mtn
mtn MegaDork
1/16/23 11:36 p.m.

In reply to Russian Warship, Go Berkeley Yourself :

What is wrong with the statement? She chose to join the most famous family in history, one that is notoriously close minded, and didn't follow their rules. Why would she expect anything different?

The royal family is (are?) an emotionally stunted group of fundamentally flawed people doing very silly pseudo-jobs, and they are a favorite target of people from all over the spectrum of royalists or anti-royalists. This type of stuff should not be a surprise.

This is not a defense of Clarkson or anyone. It is simply stating that she should have known that this comes with the territory of being a high profile member of the royal family. 

dculberson
dculberson MegaDork
1/17/23 1:39 a.m.

In reply to mtn :

Sorry, hard disagree. One does not agree to abuse by marriage. 

Toyman!
Toyman! MegaDork
1/17/23 7:59 a.m.

Here's a different take. 

Amazon was ready to sever the contract. Maybe viewership was down. Maybe Clarkson is making noises about retiring. 

Clarkson says his usual crap, maybe on purpose. 

Amazon makes an announcement. 

They get more free advertising than they could ever pay for and guarantee an increase in viewership just in case Clarkson opens his mouth and sticks his foot in it again. 

Bad publicity is to good publicity as 1 is to 10.

The public sucked it up like candy. 

 

RevRico
RevRico UltimaDork
1/17/23 8:16 a.m.

In reply to dculberson :

If you knowingly marry into a family where the matriarch killed your husbands mother for not fitting the lifestyle, you deserve everything that comes with it. That's you being an idiot, and putting common sense aside for money and fame. 

Everyone that does those things deserves everything that happens to them because they went into it of their own free will. It's not like she was kidnapped and forced into the family.

This like if you or I married Lorena Bobbit then were surprised to wake up missing an important body part. You knew what you were getting into, did it anyway, now you have to live with *gasp* the consequences of your own actions.

dculberson
dculberson MegaDork
1/17/23 8:41 a.m.

In reply to RevRico :

Nope, sorry that's a load of crap. 

DrBoost
DrBoost MegaDork
1/17/23 9:41 a.m.

In before the lock.
I will say this. I didn't even know Jeremy said anything, I don't know what Meghan and Peanut (can't remember which royal inbred she's married to) have been saying. Of these two points I'm glad.

I don't know why the 'royals' even exist or are a concern to anyone outside of themselves and the people they are living off of. 

93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
1/17/23 10:21 a.m.
BoxheadTim said:

In reply to OHSCrifle :

Unless the Sun has dug past rock bottom since I moved over here, that's pretty low even for them. Then again, we're talking about a tabloid whose sister tabloid ended up getting shut down over hacking peoples' phones and voicemails, and it's still owned by the same people.

The Sun's coverage of the Hillsborough disaster was way more rock bottom then this imo.

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim MegaDork
1/17/23 10:31 a.m.

In reply to 93EXCivic :

Good point. 

pres589 (djronnebaum)
pres589 (djronnebaum) UltimaDork
1/17/23 11:15 a.m.

Anyone writing things that sound like "She chose to" is practicing victim blaming.  

I'll let folks at home figure out what they think of that sort of activity now that it's be labeled as such.

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy MegaDork
1/17/23 11:31 a.m.

It turns out that being born into the royal family is not a sentence of community service and inbreeding.  Anybody heard anything about Prince Edward in the last 45 years?  He lives a pretty normal existence, I presume.  I don't know, because he's just a dude working in the theater.

I have less trouble with her choices than I do with Harry's.  He could have slipped into the background quite nicely, had he chosen to.  Instead, he's doing everything he can to pull every single dollar he can off his fame, and then whining about it.

GIRTHQUAKE
GIRTHQUAKE SuperDork
1/17/23 11:32 a.m.
pres589 (djronnebaum) said:

Anyone writing things that sound like "She chose to" is practicing victim blaming.  

I'll let folks at home figure out what they think of that sort of activity now that it's be labeled as such.

Seconded. 

93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
1/17/23 11:43 a.m.

IMO everyone involved in this kind of seems like an shiny happy person.

Jeremy Clarkson's comments were imo way over the top even if being an shiny happy person is kind of his thing. Meghan Markle and Harry kind of seem like fame grubbing shiny happy people but I am also sure the royal family probably acted like shiny happy people towards them. Also the Sun is barely a news paper. The only thing it is good for is wiping your shiny happy person.

 

mr2s2000elise
mr2s2000elise UberDork
1/17/23 11:52 a.m.
Streetwiseguy said:

Harry's.  He could have slipped into the background quite nicely, had he chosen to.  Instead, he's doing everything he can to pull every single dollar he can off his fame, and then whining about it.

She and her hollywood connections are behind it every step of the way.... 

think karl rove ... 

i have no problem with it - as I worship at the church of the American $ as well. But money grab doesnt happen by 1 person ... in this instance...  there is a thought ... there is a plan .... there is a team... 

Teh E36 M3
Teh E36 M3 UltraDork
1/17/23 12:00 p.m.
Appleseed said:

Huh?!

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
1/17/23 12:04 p.m.

Y'all are still wasting time talking about this? Must have a lot more free time and mental give a berkeleys than I do. 

Peabody
Peabody MegaDork
1/17/23 12:07 p.m.

KyAllroad
KyAllroad MegaDork
1/17/23 1:07 p.m.

Harry and Meghan appear to have a net worth of around 60 million USD.

Clarkson has a net worth of around 70 million USD.

Their antics of all sorts seem to have worked well enough for them.   And other than not getting any new Grand Tours out of the deal I'm not affected by any of it.

Duke
Duke MegaDork
1/17/23 1:30 p.m.
yupididit said:

Damn to wish something so degrading on someone. On a woman you don't even know and hasn't done anything wrong to you. To project that much hate through your platform. He must actually hate himself.

For about the 10th time, it's a Game Of Thrones reference.  He didn't sit around fuming and making E36 M3 like that up.  It was a quick and easy way to get his point across.

 

ShawnG
ShawnG MegaDork
1/17/23 1:43 p.m.

Let's focus on what's actually important.

Is there going to be a second season of Clarkson's Farm or not?

Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter)
Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter) PowerDork
1/17/23 1:53 p.m.
ShawnG said:

Let's focus on what's actually important.

Is there going to be a second season of Clarkson's Farm or not?

Yep.

dculberson
dculberson MegaDork
1/17/23 2:19 p.m.
Duke said:
yupididit said:

Damn to wish something so degrading on someone. On a woman you don't even know and hasn't done anything wrong to you. To project that much hate through your platform. He must actually hate himself.

For about the 10th time, it's a Game Of Thrones reference.  He didn't sit around fuming and making E36 M3 like that up.  It was a quick and easy way to get his point across.

 

That excuses nothing, especially after he said he's "unable to sleep as I lie there, grinding my teeth and dreaming of the day [...];" that's not a reference. And making a reference to something violent and degrading is, guess what, violent and degrading. Words matter and just because it's from a popular TV scene doesn't make it appropriate to say about another human being.

I can think of hundreds or even thousands of "references" that would be wildly inappropriate to make about people - public figures or not - some of which would land you in jail. Don't make excuses for a bully troll.

Adrian_Thompson (Forum Supporter)
Adrian_Thompson (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
1/17/23 2:43 p.m.

Qualifiers to below.  1. I think Jeremy is hilarious when talking about cars, machines, history, himself, especially when teamed up with the Hamster and Mr. Slow.  They are like the three stooges, greater together than the sum of their parts.  2. I do support the concept of the British Monarchy as an excellent figurehead of the great parts of British culture and heritage, and an excellent way of promoting the country and an outstanding tourist ($$) draw for the country.  However I have zero interest in the royals themselves.  As an Ex Pat Brit who still has his British Citizenship I feel no personal allegiance to them, but I support the concept of what they are today.  I know there's a book by (checks which kid it is) Harry and Meghan, I do what I can to avoid reading anything about them.  I know there's lot's of E36 M3 slinging between them and the the rest of the Royals, but thankfully I don't know the details.

Having said that.  People are focussing on the wrong thing making this about his comments on Royals.  It's not necessarily who he made the comments about.  It's the fact that, yet again, he has said something so obviously reprehensible that he can't hide behind 'it's a joke', 'hyperbole'. It's not, its intentional.  Every time its obviously purposefully demeaning and horrible words written in a very unprofessional manner.  If it was the first time he'd done something like this, OK if there was an apology.  If he'd done it before and offered a true, heartfelt open apology, maybe OK.  But he's got a long track record of sitting down and crafting reprehensible comments about people.  These aren't off the cuff comments that got caught on an open mike while joking or taken out of context.  These are comments he typed, edited, thought about, probably revised, before sending to his editor.  He's a wordsmith and he put thought into being as nasty as possible.

If it wasn't for the fact that when mixed with Hammond and May,the three of them create guaranteed bankable $$"s of awesome content, he would rightfully have been out of work and unemployable decades ago.

Worse is that his really nasty comments tend to have a few things in common.  First they are usually aimed at people who are minorities, or groups of minorities.  The other is people who have opposing political or world views to him.  

 

 

ShawnG
ShawnG MegaDork
1/17/23 2:43 p.m.

Don Cherry got fired for saying "you people".

 

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