In reply to stroker :
Also true. I've almost pulled the trigger on a 50 Beowulf upper a couple times now
In reply to stroker :
Also true. I've almost pulled the trigger on a 50 Beowulf upper a couple times now
Alright folks, new question.
What should I be doing to improve accuracy with a pistol? Is it just practice?
I'm about 75% with coke cans @ 10y.
The gun is small, but so are my hands. Fits pretty well actually. Just using the sight on top, no laser or anything.
In reply to barefootskater (Shaun) :
A lot is getting your stance right, but it is really easy to screw up by squeezing the trigger poorly. A pistol typically has a longer trigger pull than a rifle. That translates to more difficult to do cleanly. Dryfire practice watching your front sight. Work on getting zero wobble of the front sight while working the trigger.
Focussing on the front sight is also really important. I have always had a hard time with that, since I am farsighted.
Rereading my post about slowly "swinging" your sights into alignment with the target may help.
A good trick is to get someone to load, or not load a round several times where you don't know if it will go bang or not, if you flinch on an empty chamber that is your problem. Not saying it is, but it can rule it out. You'd be amazed at who "fails" this test.
barefootskater (Shaun) said:Alright folks, new question.
What should I be doing to improve accuracy with a pistol? Is it just practice?Mainly with my Ruger ec9s. Not sure if that's pertinent. I'm about 75% with coke cans @ 10y.
The gun is small, but so are my hands. Fits pretty well actually. Just using the sight on top, no laser or anything.
A co-worker just bought his first pistol and it was recommended to him to practice pointing the pistol and pulling the trigger while a quarter is balanced on the barrel. Or this:
barefootskater (Shaun) said:Alright folks, new question.
What should I be doing to improve accuracy with a pistol? Is it just practice?Mainly with my Ruger ec9s. Not sure if that's pertinent. I'm about 75% with coke cans @ 10y.
The gun is small, but so are my hands. Fits pretty well actually. Just using the sight on top, no laser or anything.
Show us a paper target and we can give a some advice.
Pistols are easy to screw up, as an example holding too much trigger can pull your shots.
The EC9 is also very light which can sometimes be detrimental for great accuracy. It's a shorter barreled CCW piece too so it's not really tuned for extreme accuracy
In reply to Antihero (Forum Supporter) :
I didn't buy it with intentions of super accuracy at 100y. But I believe in being proficient. So I've been shooting at coke cans at 10y. I figure it should be plenty accurate for that.
I'll go out with paper next time though. It's probably better for trying to hone in on exactly what I'm doing.
Noddaz, thanks! I read that article and have a question. When the author says dry fire, is that just pulling the trigger? Or does the gun need to be cocked each time. That means pulling the slide and releasing between each "shot".
In reply to barefootskater (Shaun) :
Oh yeah, I figured you didn't buy it for that. A lot of people, including myself, consider fist sized at 10yds to be perfectly fine with defence guns. That would be a little bigger than a coke can one way.
You might be missing the cokecan by barely anything
In reply to barefootskater (Shaun) :
I think it depends on your pistol. If I understand correctly, some semi-autos have a double action trigger, which both cocks and releases the striker/firing pin. Others are single action, in that the the trigger only releases the firing pin/striker, in which case you have to work the slide to reset the trigger. A quick search on the googles says it has a double action trigger, which SHOULD mean you can practice trigger pull without cocking the slide each time, but I might be wrong. (And often am!)
EDIT: I'd also second the "make your target bigger" suggestion if the primary purpose is personal defense. As I indicated above, I'm loving shooting steel targets for my practice time. It's easy to change targets and you know immediately if you've hit or not. A 3 or 4 inch plate is basically the "vital hit" area. Being able to hit that quickly and reliably, especially from a draw and when moving it probably a LOT more important and being able to hit a 2/3 inch target under perfect conditions, with a perfect stance. Unless your primary purpose is target/league shooting, reliable practical accuracy under varied conditions is more important that pinpoint accuracy under perfect conditions. I'll leave whether its useful to start with pinpoint accuracy and then work into more practical shooting situations to those with more ammo, practice time and experience than I have.
In reply to barefootskater (Shaun) :
Yes, dryfire is cock-each-time so you get the real trigger feel and have to pull against the real weight and stacking. The exception is DA guns that fully cock by trigger pull.
Speaking of handgun accuracy.... I learned yesterday I can hit a steel silhouette target with my 3" 1911 about 5/10 shots at 42 yards. My 5" 9/10. Since neither is meant to be shooting out that far in happy with it.
also subsonic .308 suppressed makes less noise than a bolt action .22 and a suppressed 11.5" .223 is still loud.
Justjim75 said:Rereading my post about slowly "swinging" your sights into alignment with the target may help.
A good trick is to get someone to load, or not load a round several times where you don't know if it will go bang or not, if you flinch on an empty chamber that is your problem. Not saying it is, but it can rule it out. You'd be amazed at who "fails" this test.
That's a great drill. I've used that with a lot of success training people in the past and still use it on myself now and again. Many fail this at some point or another, even very well trained individuals.
Is it safe to go shooting with a concussion?
Lol, JK
Justjim75 said:Is it safe to go shooting with a concussion?
Lol, JK
Yes, just limit yourself to Nerf options.
In reply to Justjim75 :
Probably not the best idea for me to go out right now. Not sure I'd want to take the rental out there, and I can't ride the bike because the staples prevent me putting on a helmet.
Want a compact 9 single stack CC
Narrowed down to SIG P365 vs S&W MP Shield 2.0 (w/ Crimson Trace optional)
Thoughts?
Thread TLDR
TIA
In reply to fasted58 :
No info on the SIG. I've got an M&P Shield (early version) that's been my CC for about 4 or 5 years now. Never had a stoppage shooting it. Practical accuracy is decent. It's shown minimal wear on coated surfaces. I have had some issues with the safety creeping on (you'll find info on this online). I've made a "sweep of the safety" a part of my draw and presentation. I believe the V2 is available without external safety. Price point is pretty solid.
Just be aware, the last time I was in the gun store, 9mm's were in VERY limited supply. You may be stuck with whatever is in stock unless you're willing to do an online purchase/ship to FFL.
In reply to fasted58 :
The benefit of the 9mm is the higher capacity. If you're going single stack go with the fat, slow boolets. But I'm the guy that edc's a compact 1911 so my judgment is likely pretty suspect.
as for your two choices I liked the SW over the sig. if I was going sig it would be a 239.
In reply to fasted58 :
Love the P365! First small 9 I've enjoyed shooting. Less perceived recoil than the others I've fired and easy to conceal. Plus you get 10+1 or 12+1 if you are OK with the extended mags.
In reply to kazoospec :
Two local gun shops had no desirable CC guns last I was there, not counting on them for in stock anymore. I would most likely have to order online and ship to FFL. Local RK usually had a good supply of everything firearm but haven't been there in damn near over a year, I'll take a look tho.
In reply to fasted58 :
The SIG is a nice carry gun. I want to pick one up, but am already on new gun 3 this year.
You may want to look at double stacks too, they really aren't that much fatter anymore. If you held a Taurus g2c and g2s back to back you'd be surprised that one holds twice the amount.
I have a g2c it's......ok. The trigger sucks but it's absolutely reliable and was below $200. I carried it for a bit and went the other way( 44 mag n frame and am looking at single action, possibly a Carryhawk) because I'm weird and my carry concerns are different.
But the g2c was cheap( which is kinda great for carry) and it's reliable. I wouldnt feel bad carrying it
Current carry is Beretta 92D w/ added laser. Tritium sights also. Love the laser but too large a frame to be comfortable for CC. Like the capacity. It's at home or vehicle only now.
Beretta Bobcat in .22LR. Pocket pistol. It's never far from me, but limitations ya know.
My old GF called them the summer and winter guns. 
.380 is out, sticking w/ 9mm. Price is not a real concern for the right CC gun.
Kinda spoiled by the laser, great in low light and dark. S&W w/ Crimson Trace looks promising but not dismissing the P365 at this point.
Gonna do further research and shop around online, hit some more local gun shops too. The two Beretta's gonna cover it for now, compact 9's is the right answer tho.
Thanks guys.
I've never shot an M&P Shield but I do own the full-size M&P 2.0. It's a great gun that really improved on it's predecessor's trigger pull. I'm like 90% sure they use the same action so you should like the shield.
In reply to fasted58 :
Don't discount the Glock 48 either. Single stack 9mm with a decent sight radius. Essentially a single stack G19.
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