Bug-atti

...or Bugeyron?

http://www.carscoops.com/2013/02/the-bugatti-veyronbeetle-edition.html

I know it's just a computer rendering, but for some reason I like it better than either of the originals. I'd actually ponder building one if a kit became available.

The want is super strong with this one. It's one of my rotating wallpapers. I want to build one out of aluminum, but the powertrain has me perplexed. What period correct powertrain would you use in something like that?

Let's brainstorm shall we?

neat, but I don't get a race-car vibe from it. The Veyron is one part hyper car one part luxury car, and I'd think that a 50's version would be more like an early Lambo or Porsche.

Much better looking than the original. If you wanted a period correct powertrain, how about a small block Chevy, Ford 427 Side Oiler, or Chrysler Hemi with Weber IDAs or DCOEs and velocity stacks?

Whilst I agree a V8 would be awesome, the Veyron has a "weird" engine. W16 with 4 turbochargers. I was thinking some sort of aircraft engine? Merlin would be too large, but awesome. Any other ideas?

That looks wonderful... especially when compared to the fugly Veyron.

Conquest351 wrote: Let's brainstorm shall we?

Shouldn't be too hard to find a good cheap gently used mid 50's 251 engine should it?

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In reply to bigdaddylee82:

I like your thought process. Something like that with a supercharger or turbo(s)? What other "period correct" engines are there? Something strange, but powerful. I'd think something in the 600-700hp range would be about right as the new Veyron is over 1,000hp. Napier Deltic engine? Were they made small enough?

while the flat Porsche 6 was not around in the 50s.. done up with velocity stacks, it would look at home in there.

I wish there was an available flat or V12 air cooled that would go back there. THAT would be ideal.

Aren't there numerous flat 6 aircraft engines that are air cooled? If you dig deep enough you may even find a flat 8. Lycoming and Continental come to mind.

I agree that a Porsche flat six, or Corvair, with stacks would have the right look. And if that were a kit, I'd be putting a deposit on it now.

For "weirdness" level, I'd go with a 917 flat-12.

That's not being realistic, though...

In budget-no-object build I'd 'want' a 914-6, air-cooled mid-engine set-up. If I were building one with my own money: WRX drivetrain a la FFR 919, with the side-scoops functional to feed air to twin side radiators.

I was thinking a 917 flat 12 would be ideal, but you're not going to find that. Maybe a Ryan Falconer V12 that's made from Chevy parts?

Conquest351 wrote: I wish there was an available flat or V12 air cooled that would go back there. THAT would be ideal.

Some Tatra trucks have big air cooled 19.0 liter diesel V12s

Agreed, lots of want.

I would the car to be as small as possible, but the engine to have as many cylinders as possible, because I like extremes. The ferrari 288 GTO had a longitudinal mounted 2855cc twin turbo V8, imagine this is a magical land where you can easily stick an extra 4 cylinders on it making a 4283cc twin turbo V12. Bingo.

Or for a more period correct option, use this engine from a miata:

recreate it all in aluminum (because I want it to weight less than the rest of the car) and add some turbos.

V8? Check
Air-cooled? Check
Available in the 50's? check
In a rear-engined car? check

We have a winner!

Umm... how about two Subie engines with a common crank?

It's a VW. Shouldn't that mean the right engine is merely a custom billet block, crank, and cam plus 12 ACVW pistons and 6 cylinder heads all fed through one 24" long Judson supercharger?

oldopelguy wrote: It's a VW. Shouldn't that mean the right engine is merely a custom billet block, crank, and cam plus 12 ACVW pistons and 6 cylinder heads all fed through one 24" long Judson supercharger?

for that matter.. you could run SCAT individual cylinder heads and just weld the blocks together with a custom flat 12 crank

I'd try 2 VW flat fours joined at the crank. Not a single common crank, just joined together. If you want extra weirdness points, try one on top of the other instead of end to end....

In reply to Conquest351:

Falconer V-12.

Lycoming IO-720 for that Porsche vibe.

needs an LS of some flavor... LS9, perhaps?

Appleseed wrote: In reply to Conquest351: Lycoming IO-720 for that Porsche vibe.

I believe we have a winner. With turbos or a centrifugal period looking blower bolted directly to the crank. Are these engines redily available or are they one of those obscure non findable engine?

fanfoy wrote: V8? Check Air-cooled? Check Available in the 50's? check In a rear-engined car? check We have a winner!

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