Can we suspend our NASCAR hate for a minute and admit...

That Day-Glo Tide scheme is/was the E36 M3. You had to work to NOT notice it.

I would have loved to see someone run this:

I got to sit in that car at a test session at Talledega. It's about the only vintage race car I would buy if it ever crossed my path.

Flight Service wrote: How many of those guys DON'T have sponsors? I am seeing alot of blank space or sponsors that couldn't buy an engine much less afford a season Love the Mark Martin throwback as well as the Mellow Yellow. I am surprised that is the Bud they went with instead of the Jr. Johnson/Bill Elliott paint scheme. Harry Gants throw back needs something on the rear quarters. The one that is painted up like a supermodified with the engine stickers is cheesy. Love the concept.

I don't understand why they went with the Bud car they did either. I like most of the other ones. The 7 modified car didn't come out that we'll but the sentiment is pretty cool. Tommy Baldwin Jr'so father Tom Baldwin was a big name in Nascar Modifieds who was killed in a race at Thompson a few years ago.

My favorites are the 5 car and the 22 car. I was a big Geoff Bodine fan when I was a kid and Shell painting their car like the car Mario Andertti drove with Micheal and John is a cool idea.

I am a bit disappointed the Gibbs cars didn't do anything. Given Kyle Busch'so car is bright green they easily could have done the Interstate Batteries scheme. Jeff Gordon should have gone with the rainbow car this week. I can't think of a more famous #24 car.

yeah, I was disappointed that Gordon didn't run the DuPont car

and even though it was a Ford (RP did drive a Ford one season) the STP car was pretty well done

wbjones wrote: yeah, I was disappointed that Gordon didn't run the DuPont car

strange that he didnt. he ran the old rainbow warrior scheme at bristol a few weeks ago.

i really like this aero and tire package (and it sounds like many drivers do too). i hope they run it in a lot of races next year. its obvious the cars were much more loose and the cars lost a lot of speed as the tires wore down.

There was some really good driving by the front runners.

Cars were on the very edge while running side by side.

bearmtnmartin wrote: I have always thought that road racing caters to the competitors. If a few fans show up then fine but don't expect to be catered to. Circle track just the opposite. It's all about the fan experience. I suggested at a road race meeting once that they invert the start to make it more exciting. They about ran me out of the room.

on a road course, you can only see a small portion of the track... on an oval, you can see the whole thing..

Lancer007 wrote: Once I took some time to watch NASCAR I started enjoying it. Its a totally different kind of Motorsport than road racing but it takes just as much talent, when you figure out the nuances and stuff then it becomes exciting. Plus when they run at road courses like Sonoma and Road America its usually a good show.

i'm sure someone is amassing a collection of torches and pitchforks to give to a mob that will come after you shortly..

failboat wrote:

wbjones wrote: yeah, I was disappointed that Gordon didn't run the DuPont car

strange that he didnt. he ran the old rainbow warrior scheme at bristol a few weeks ago. i really like this aero and tire package (and it sounds like many drivers do too). i hope they run it in a lot of races next year. its obvious the cars were much more loose and the cars lost a lot of speed as the tires wore down.

don't know if the tires will degrade like that at some of the other tracks … Darlington has ALWAYS been a cheese grader … tires haven't lasted much more than a dozen or so laps since the '60's

Ned Jarrett pointed out that his victory back then only needed 2 sets of tires .. but that the rubber was so hard he might have won without a change

In reply to bmw88rider:

I got to look at one of those cars up close a bit ago. Definitely one of my favorite looking non tobacco sponsored cars. There was a small section of NASCARs at the Arizona Open Wheel Racing Museum.

My wife thought they were pretty cool too.

novaderrik wrote:

Lancer007 wrote: Once I took some time to watch NASCAR I started enjoying it. Its a totally different kind of Motorsport than road racing but it takes just as much talent, when you figure out the nuances and stuff then it becomes exciting. Plus when they run at road courses like Sonoma and Road America its usually a good show.

i'm sure someone is amassing a collection of torches and pitchforks to give to a mob that will come after you shortly..

Not I. I've been saying that about NASCAR for years, but got tired of repeating myself to the stuck-up haters. I enjoy watching all types of racing, but NASCAR is the one type where you really have to pay attention to the entire race if you want to understand what's going on. It's one reason why I've never had much of a desire to see a NASCAR race in person, but any of type of road racing would be more fun to watch.

Granted, much like other sports, I only tend to watch it when it's the "off-season" of the outdoor things I do.

I haven't really followed NASCAR for years but for whatever reason I started again mid season this year. Been watching every race from the trucks to sprint cup.

In reply to wbjones:

I think they were getting close to 50-60 laps on tires in some of the longer stints last night. But generally the tires were starting to fall off and lose speed within 10 laps. First caution I forget who decided not to get pit, but he got walked on the restart with everyone else on fresh tires, lost like 10 places.

I do want to see this setup used more or even become the norm for 2016. The racing last night was good and so was Kentucky when they last ran the low drag aero.

Lancer007 wrote: In reply to bmw88rider: I got to look at one of those cars up close a bit ago. Definitely one of my favorite looking non tobacco sponsored cars. There was a small section of NASCARs at the Arizona Open Wheel Racing Museum. My wife thought they were pretty cool too.

"NASCAR" is not a noun- it's an acronym...

those are NASCAR race cars.. and they are really cool to see in person.

In reply to novaderrik:

Get outta here with your "rules of the English language", we are taking about race cars.

Woody wrote: It would be cool if they could get Cale Yarborough to punch Donnie Allison in the mouth after the race.

That gets funnier each time I read it. I am sure something can be arranged between Tony Stewart and some other random driver.

failboat wrote: I haven't really followed NASCAR for years but for whatever reason I started again mid season this year. Been watching every race from the trucks to sprint cup. In reply to wbjones: I think they were getting close to 50-60 laps on tires in some of the longer stints last night. But generally the tires were starting to fall off and lose speed within 10 laps. First caution I forget who decided not to get pit, but he got walked on the restart with everyone else on fresh tires, lost like 10 places. I do want to see this setup used more or even become the norm for 2016. The racing last night was good and so was Kentucky when they last ran the low drag aero.

that was the point I was trying to make … not that the tires failed after a dozen laps, but that by the time someone needed to pit for fuel, another car on fresh tires would be 3 - 4 (or more) seconds quicker than the one on old tires …

other tracks the time delta isn't nearly as much … and some almost no difference