Keith Tanner said:
The situation we're in right now, coming up with impossible trips and implausible requirements to force ICE requirements on EVs, will become history. Probably by the time Stellantis comes up with a battery electric Wrangler.
You are right.
Taking a top 20 nationwide sales vehicle from the largest city in Wisconsin (31st largest in the nation) on a trip of less than 200 miles, 50% along a major freeway (I-43) and 25% along a highway (US 20) and 25% along a state highway (IL 75), connecting near the 5th largest city in Illinois (171st in the nation) , and heading to one of the more popular tourist areas in the midwest is an impossible and implausible trip and certainly represents an outlier case.
Keith Tanner said:
In reply to No Time :
That is surprising. I wonder if it's a better power adder than economy implementation. An electric motor assist would seem to be really useful in rock crawling, for example. The fact that it's the same ICE would imply that this was the goal more than efficiency.
If it is like the other Mopar truck hybrids, the electric motor/generator is basically a really big alternator connected to the front of the engine that sometimes charges the HV battery and sometimes assists the engine.
I really hope it isn't.
In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :
Those are MHEVs, and yes, they will become much more common. They qualify as EVs. And are cheaper than regular hybrids. Considerably cheaper than BEVs.
93gsxturbo said:
Keith Tanner said:
The situation we're in right now, coming up with impossible trips and implausible requirements to force ICE requirements on EVs, will become history. Probably by the time Stellantis comes up with a battery electric Wrangler.
You are right.
Taking a top 20 nationwide sales vehicle from the largest city in Wisconsin (31st largest in the nation) on a trip of less than 200 miles, 50% along a major freeway (I-43) and 25% along a highway (US 20) and 25% along a state highway (IL 75), connecting near the 5th largest city in Illinois (171st in the nation) , and heading to one of the more popular tourist areas in the midwest is an impossible and implausible trip and certainly represents an outlier case.
The trip is presented as one that is impossible, although with some changes it is not. The solution (a 300-400 mile Wrangler) is implausible and will likely remain that way.
No Time
UltraDork
10/8/23 7:23 p.m.
The wrangler has a system that uses the alternator style assist as well as an electric motor in place of the torque converter. At least that's the info I found (I did not fact check):
4xe hybrid and electric systems
Correct, the 4xe has a motor between the gas engine and the transmission. Lets you run in 4 low on battery, which is a unique feature compared to most 4WD PHEVs.
