So I love my job, I'd be crazy not to and there's no way that I'd consider leaving it. That being said I've been approached by another entity within the same field, though not a competitor about working in a very similar capacity for them with the ability to telecommute and with flex time. What does the hive say?
If they're in the same field as your current company, even if you don't think they aren't a direct competitor I don't know if your company's management would feel the same...I'd tread very carefully, if they found out it could mean immediate dismissal. If you really want a second job I'd look for something in a completely different field so there's no question.
Puts me in mind of firemen. The job hours are so slack that they all have second full-time jobs or run a business. Why not, its what your elected officials all do.
If you have any insider knowledge from your present position that could be beneficial to the other company - whether you're ok with keeping it to yourself or not - then I'd say no. Why put yourself into a position like that?
The training courses/videos at every job Ive had always say talk to HR if you are in doubt. It would depend on the field though. No one is going to care if you work two server jobs
If it seems like a better job, go for it, especially if you're working in IT/software dev/compsci. In those fields the only way to get a raise is to hop jobs like you're trying to build up a combo score.
Edit: D'oh, morning thinking, forgot you're thinking about doing both at the same time. What I said still applies if you think you have time though.
I did something like this, with the second job on a contractual and second priority basis. I did clear it with the main employer first.
No one can stop you from working two jobs, provided that they are kept strictly separate and don't violate your employment contract. I have had employees with a second gig who felt that they could use my office supplies, copier, telephone, computer, etc for their other job. Big no-no and they were fired.
I'm planning on informing my current (awesome) employer if the potential second employer is interested in interviewing me for the position. I'd be certain not to use any supplies nor my computer (or Outlook contact list) from one position to the other.
For reference the field of business is motorsports sanctioning bodies.
pinchvalve wrote: No one can stop you from working two jobs, provided that they are kept strictly separate and don't violate your employment contract.
I think that's a fairly standard clause in employment contracts through.
Mine actually got reviewed to include it a couple years ago, curiously. Of course I do other work on the side like most people who don't work for themselves/aren't independently wealthy here, with the kind of money you make around here you have to take all the moonlighting you can get.
I don't share any resources between the two, but I still do it 
So to be clear, are you saying the second job work will be done from your first job's desk? Or that the second job would be nights and weekends? If it's the former forget it. Even if you are bored to tears and making paper clip chains at your desk waiting for a task to get to your desk you are being paid by that employer to be there as work potential for that company. Doing someone else's work for personal gain while getting paid to be at the first job is definitely something people get fired for.
fritzsch wrote: The training courses/videos at every job Ive had always say talk to HR if you are in doubt. It would depend on the field though. No one is going to care if you work two server jobs
The LAST people I would tell anything to is HR.
slefain wrote:fritzsch wrote: The training courses/videos at every job Ive had always say talk to HR if you are in doubt. It would depend on the field though. No one is going to care if you work two server jobsThe LAST people I would tell anything to is HR.
Same here. That said, doing job 2 from the desk of job 1 is asking for it.
We have to get outside employment approved by the company. With a CDL you can only work so many hours in a day so they don't want us taking other jobs that could affect our hours of service.
I under no circumstances would work job 2 from the desk of job 1. Neither employer would be a fan of that.
The biggest issue would be travel, though it would afford comp days with each position to crack down on the other one, and allow me to contribute around the house.
Second concern, other then time crunch, is that I might be so overloaded with being on track that it may dampen motorsports as a hobby and kill almost all participation beyond rallycross and rallysprints (if those start to happen).
Many employers also stipulate that any vacation/sick/comp time cannot be used to earn income from a third party. Whether they find out or not is questionable, but I'm always of the mind that these things will catch up to you.
Read your employee handbook - I'm certain that it has something covering this scenario.
How big is your current company? Large enough that HR doesn't know you by name? If so, call and ask (don't do it in person).
my current office is small, everyone is on a first name basis.
Can't have too much $$$ or contacts.
This is tough. My main thing would be to look at your labour laws in your particular state, plus your employee contract/handbook and see what it says.
Its pretty simple IMO; they can't fire you for doing something that isn't against your agreed contract. I guess unless you are in a "at-will" state (man, you guys in the USA are messed up with your laws sometimes). 
Paper clips and staples are not the biggest asset that could be co-mingled. You are.
It could be tricky.
Sounds like your #1 concern is keeping the job you've got. Make sure you protect it by talking VERY openly with Mr. Awesome employer. If he's OK, you're OK.
If not, run away.
I don't even mix my time. If someone even contacts me about a side job on a work phone/email, I tell them to use my personal phone and I try to hint to keep it outside of working hours.
I wouldn't. I've offered my services to larger warehouse entities before, but I fear they would rather pay the massive costs of missing merchandise or erroneous shipments than the massive quantity of racism lawsuits I would bring about......
Seriously, one of our suppliers #1 problem is nobody but management speaks english.....and everything written is in english. 
berk HR
That is all.
yamaha wrote: I wouldn't. I've offered my services to larger warehouse entities before, but I fear they would rather pay the massive costs of missing merchandise or erroneous shipments than the massive quantity of racism lawsuits I would bring about...... Seriously, one of our suppliers #1 problem is nobody but management speaks english.....and everything written is in english.
Do they all speak Spanish? Translating all the signs and documents into another language would be easier and cheaper than teaching even one of them English.
In reply to GameboyRMH:
You are assuming they read.
I work with Mexicans every day. Hate to say it, but where I work, management is white, truck drivers are black, and construction workers are Mexican.
Many don't read, those that do might not know the technical description words specific to the work (even in Spanish).
We get by with a strange mix of Spanglibonics and hand signs.
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