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lnlogauge
lnlogauge Dork
8/15/23 4:27 p.m.

You'd think this would be complaining about my 50 minute commute each way. Nope. 

The day started like this. 

 

Now keep in mind, this isn't a one time thing. This is daily. Daily, this man pisses on a toilet seat, then leaves. Did I leave out the part about washing his hands? Yeah, he leaves that part out too. 

 

This was later in the day. 

 

 

I understand workplace violence. I don't condone it, but I understand it. I'm printing out pictures for a wall of shame next. 

spitfirebill
spitfirebill MegaDork
8/15/23 6:10 p.m.

If you know who does it, send an email from a coworkers computer calling him (or her) out.  

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH MegaDork
8/15/23 6:41 p.m.

I'm surprised there isn't more environmental pushback on return-to-office orders. Having employees return to commuting after it's been proven to be unnecessary (and often even counterproductive) is coming pretty close to burning fossil fuels in a volcano lair for fun.

gearheadmb
gearheadmb UltraDork
8/15/23 6:43 p.m.

In reply to spitfirebill :

I agree. I'm not saying I'm "pro bullying" but this is the kind of situation that can use some bullying. 

Boost_Crazy
Boost_Crazy Dork
8/15/23 7:06 p.m.

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NY Nick
NY Nick Dork
8/15/23 7:24 p.m.

I have worked from home for over three years. It has its ups and downs. There is a middle ground, I don't want to turn this into a battle thread. 
I will say passive aggressive is bull E36 M3. If you know who is doing it and you don't feel comfortable confronting them (which is fine) then it should be reported to HR or the persons manager. That behavior isn't acceptable and needs to be stopped. 

ShawnG
ShawnG MegaDork
8/15/23 7:45 p.m.

Work from home lol.

Signed: Mechanics.

 

Also lol from a guy who apprenticed in some places with horrible bathrooms.

 

KyAllroad
KyAllroad MegaDork
8/15/23 7:57 p.m.

I missed no days for the shutdown (essential employee).

The employees who really embraced working from home are HR.

HR is 100% useless now that they aren't present and accountable.

If I have to go in to work, so should everyone else (or us "essential" employees should get paid extra for actually going to work).

Furious_E (Forum Supporter)
Furious_E (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
8/15/23 8:11 p.m.

I've seen some genuine berkeleying horror show stuff in the bathrooms at my last job. The last few months, racing stripes down the back of the seat were a regular occurrence. Like, whizzing on the seat is one thing, but how do you miss the bowl when you're taking a E36 M3? I literally don't even understand how that's possible.

jgrewe
jgrewe Dork
8/15/23 9:06 p.m.

I'm confused. You miss your wife posting directions at home?

 

oooooohhh, that's the work bathroom...nevermind

j_tso
j_tso Dork
8/15/23 9:12 p.m.
spitfirebill said:

If you know who does it, send an email for a coworkers computer calling him (or her) out.  

I'd just leave a "Employees must wash hands" sign on his desk.

And I'd agree that using my own toilet was the best part of WFH. In addition to the lack of cleanliness, my office stocks the cheapest, roughest tissue.

Datsun310Guy
Datsun310Guy MegaDork
8/15/23 10:17 p.m.

Being in sales I was in and out of the office all day long.  Our bathrooms were pretty disgusting at the office that if I had  a mild emergency I'd head over to Costco, 

Sometimes I'd just drive the 8 miles and go home then head out on sales calls.  

Speedway gas stations and McDonald's are the worst ones. 

 

lnlogauge
lnlogauge Dork
8/15/23 10:19 p.m.

In reply to spitfirebill :

the one time an email to all would be fitting, but he's not a coworker and I don't have his email. Also, im 99% sure who it is, I don't play directive games without being 100%. 

My office is weird. The company I work for ran out of office space, so they rented an office just for me in a coworking space across the street, for 1200$ a month. The building is owned by a woman, and the company that manages it is 2 women. The women get 2 single stall modern rooms. the Guys get one bathroom with 1 normal size stall, and other where your knees hit the door when you're in there. There's only 4 guys that are in the office regularly, with probably 15 women. 

Datsun310Guy
Datsun310Guy MegaDork
8/15/23 10:19 p.m.
 
spitfirebill said:

my office stocks the cheapest, roughest tissue.

Saving money - goes right down to the bottom line and into your profit sharing or year end bonus. 

Woody (Forum Supportum)
Woody (Forum Supportum) MegaDork
8/15/23 10:21 p.m.

I never had the opportunity to WFH.


Life in the firehouse:

 

SV reX
SV reX MegaDork
8/15/23 10:39 p.m.

In reply to GameboyRMH :

Pew Research says 61% of workers can't work from home, and that that it hurts low income earners, people without college degrees, and minorities most.

For those that can wfh, the results are significantly mixed. 
 

Pew Research results

Returning to work has definitely has not been proven to be unnecessary.  Glad it worked for you, but as for the rest of us...

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
8/15/23 10:46 p.m.

In reply to Datsun310Guy :

Having spent much of my working life "on the road", there are only two good places for restrooms.  

  1.  Medical facilities
  2. Hotels

At both of these places they actually have dedicated staff to clean the bathroom.  It's not just the responsibility of the guy who made the fries to do before he can go home.  At a hotel for example, they care about the bathrooms so much that you could probably get a free room for the night if you complained about the condition of the lobby bathroom.  

If I need to, I typically head to a Hampton Inn or hotel of similar stature.  If the hotel serves a breakfast, by health code there needs to be a bathroom relatively close.  Another health code is a bathroom needs to be near the pool.  

Just walk in the front door and ask the counter where the nearest bathroom is.  If needed, mention that you are meeting someone here and you are a little early.   Then when leaving, if you feel the staff is "watching you" just fake a phone conversation and loudly mention, "... you're not even here yet."  And, walk out.   

Wally (Forum Supporter)
Wally (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
8/15/23 11:41 p.m.

I missed the open roads from everyone else working from home. Everyone came back having forgotten how to drive. 

aircooled
aircooled MegaDork
8/16/23 1:01 a.m.

In reply to SV reX :

I read: "A Pee research study says..."

It is interesting to note that Zoom is now requiring its workers to come into the office...ouch.

WFH is working great in our company (corporate, retail and distribution obviously not).  One bonus is it wildly increases the talent pool we can recruit from.

Scotty Con Queso
Scotty Con Queso UltraDork
8/16/23 8:14 a.m.

A couple of random notes:

1. We had the shaving bandit at my last job.  Someone was trimming their facial hair (God, I hope it was their facial hair) in the work sink with zero effort to clean it up.  Just piles of hair all over the sink.  It was infuriating to try to wash your hands.

2. The safety guy at another job didn't actually wash his hands.  You know, the guy who literally used safety as a weapon to beat you with?  That guy would do a quick rinse and no soap after a #2.  Looking back I should have called him out in a public way.  Why bother wash your hands if you don't use soap?

TJL (Forum Supporter)
TJL (Forum Supporter) Dork
8/16/23 9:15 a.m.

We had the same issue at my last job. Handful of disgusting animals in the office.  In my section, we had usually 4 males that used the 1 bathroom. Besides the guy that NEVER washed his hands, we had this particularly disgusting scumbag. Lets call him Austin. He was an absolute trash person. Never washed himself, zero self awareness. Knowitall, stinky, abrasive. He works for nasa now i think. His diet was pure trash as well. He would trucker piss all over the toilet seat and leave it. After a few times, i walked out of the bathroom when everyone was in the work area and loudly proclaimed, "whichever one of you drippy dicks  is pissing on the seat and leaving it, your mom does not work here and im sure your wife is tired of cleaning your disgusting piss off the seat".

all the while we all knew it was austin. This is the same guy that liked hidden cameras to record women changing clothes, showering, etc. he was caught at work having "accidently" left a tablet in a females office(a female that he had a well known infatuation with), knowing she changed her clothes in her office. Had it set just right to see her. And he had some program that let him remote use the cameras.  
 

also we had "the porcelin picaso" who never had a solid bowel movement in his whole life.  He also never cleaned up the bowl after it looked like a firecracker exploded in his turd. The "be-speckler". 

Datsun310Guy
Datsun310Guy MegaDork
8/16/23 9:16 a.m.

We had a guy that would get mad at the boss and throw balled up paper towels into the urinal.  We'd pick them out but after a while you'd get annoyed and pee on them until somebody steps up and clears them out.  

Then you'd be like; uh oh, Mike's mad at the boss today - what's going on? It was like a barometer.

Datsun310Guy
Datsun310Guy MegaDork
8/16/23 9:21 a.m.

Then we,d have guys throw pennies into the urinal.  Prior to Covid and easy access to rubber gloves I'd ask how much money in the urinal where you'd finally pick it all out?

  • Penny? No.  Six pennies?
  • Nickel? No
  • Dime? No
  • Quarter? Maybe 
  • Three quarters?  Yes
Toyman!
Toyman! MegaDork
8/16/23 9:59 a.m.

I clean the toilet at the office 85% of the time. I'm not going to make the one female that works here deal with cleaning up after a bunch of guys. Anyone who pisses or E36 M3s on the toilet and doesn't clean it up will immediately find it to be in their job description to clean the toilet daily until further notice. I'm not going to play those games and I will be an shiny happy person about it to your face and in public. 

Since I'm the payroll dept and HR, I can make that ruling stick like E36 M3 to a toilet seat.

FAFO.

 

As to the WFH. You can't miss what you never had. I worked every day of the shutdown and worked inside hospitals and frequently covid wards through most of it as did the rest of the company.  

 

 

Apexcarver
Apexcarver UltimaDork
8/16/23 10:22 a.m.

Wow, reading this thread I feel like I'll get blasted for admitting that I full time work from home since the pandemic. 

I dont miss spending 2.5 hours a day on a commuter bus. 

My office's productivity in pretty much all metrics INCREASED when we were all working from home. 

 

I am very grateful to have the commute time back to spend with my kids. 

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