Upon further inspection, that also has a pickguard. Not an aerodyne, just a cool tele.
In reply to mtn:
I believe it's an older pic and it's a heavily modified guitar (note the bridge humbucker).
He currently plays a Fender Signature version:
http://www.fender.com/guitars/telecaster/john-5-signature-telecaster/
(my knowledge of John 5 is soley through Guitar World)
gamby wrote:poopshovel wrote: 50 Million Elvis fans can't be wrong!...but 20 million Creed and Nickelback fans can be![]()
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You are reinforcing my point (it was sarcasm.)
gamby wrote: This thread just made me sad. Music exists outside of Metallica and AC/DC. Music didn't cease after 1992.
Oh, and to your point, while I do heart ACDC, I have a Superchunk/Tsunami split, as well as the Jawbreaker/Jawbox "With or Without U2" split, and every Polvo 7" ever released, so yeah. Suck it. I win
Maroon92 wrote: What rock are you living under that you don't know who Adam Levine is? I don't particularly care for their music, but I definitely am AWARE of Maroon 5... Kendrick Lamar is also not my cup of tea, but I've heard of him.
mine must be a large rock ... I've never heard of any of those
I'm 50 and I've heard of all of them. Don't necessarily like any of them, but I've heard of them.
You guys dissapoint me in your closed off asshattery once something leaves your crap car comfort zone.
In reply to Chris_V:
I'm a bit older and I have heard of these people, too.
I revel in my pop-culture snobbery; it's better than being an obliviot.
In reply to Chris_V:
I consider most of modern popular stuff to be disposable. It'll be big for a few months, and then we won't hear it again, except when somebody says "hey, remember that tune by ______ from when we were in college?"
A lot of it is pretty catchy, but gets drilled into the ground by overplaying on the plethora of redundant radio stations, and gets a little irritating after the 5th or 6th time you hear it during the work day. If pop/modern rock/modern country stations drew from a larger library of music, I'd be more inclined to listen. I don't really want to hear the same song twice in one week.
I dig the Stones though, so what do I know.
FWIW, I've heard of everybody mentioned in this thread except Kendrick Lamar. But the context in which I've heard of them didn't usually make me want to go seek them out and listen.
It's not an aversion to new stuff, which I do seek out. It's an aversion to what is being sold by AmalgamatedMusicCorpInc. I'm not surprised if some of it is good (and I do like some bands that are on Big Labels with Marketing Departments), that's just not where I tend to look, for a combination of anti-marketing-driven-pop sentiment and the simple fact that "pop" (as an almost uselessly broad designation) is rarely my style.
There is an amazing amount of new music out there, and not to give a rip about the most-publicized of it is hardly an indication that one isn't finding new music. There is also, for many of us, a huge amount of music we've never heard from other eras and genres we may not have explored before. Pandora and Spotify allow finding music by whether it has some resemblance to other stuff you like (though the algorithms are clearly pretty clunky; hey, it's a tricky task to recommend music, even for humans).
I'm honestly a little surprised at how disappointed some folks are by others' not staying up on pop culture, which may be the least useful aspect of culture there is outside of getting certain jokes in late night talk show intro monologues. I wish I had more time for researching my little corner of musical taste, not to mention more time for researching actual news, current events, and their historical origins.
I just can't bring myself to feel that a lack of a command of contemporary pop music is a significant void in my life. I'm not standing here with my ears covered going "la la la I can't hear Maroon 5", I just don't stumble into it and don't care to take extra time to do so.
So now I sound just as perturbed as the "how can you not be up to speed on this stuff?" folks, but I felt like I needed an "in defense of listening to what I want to listen to" that pointed out it had nothing to do with willful ignorance, but more to do with allocating limited time and resources.
poopshovel wrote:gamby wrote: This thread just made me sad. Music exists outside of Metallica and AC/DC. Music didn't cease after 1992.Oh, and to your point, while I do heart ACDC, I have a Superchunk/Tsunami split, as well as the Jawbreaker/Jawbox "With or Without U2" split, and every Polvo 7" ever released, so yeah. Suck it. I win![]()
LOL--I made up the "Indonesian Superchunk 7"" thing.
To you, I say--"good"--although Polvo was WAY over my head in terms of accessibilty. I usually need an obvious melodic hook in the stuff Iisten to. Melody is the only thing I ask for in music.
My initial gripe was that too many people give up on new music by the age of 30. The repetition of hearing nothing new would drive me nuts, but plenty of people are comfy in familiarity. Radio is dead, Music print media is just about dead, quality rock/hip-hop in the mainstream is dead. Everything of worth is on the underground now and the people who weren't receptive to new stuff when it was easily accessible certainly aren't going to dig for it now.
Pandora/Spotify will be part of the future, but they need to start paying artists appropriately for their content (my Sirius fees just went up again due to licensing fees). With the internet having killed the concept of intellectual property, there's a fraction of the money in the music biz that used to exist in the 90's.
In reply to ransom:
I make no apologies for my knowledge of current music or lack thereof. It just doesn't interest me as much anymore. I only have so much time that I can spend listening to music, so I will listen to what I want to. In most cases, it's classical. I do occasionally turn on one of the local rock or college/alt stations and they often play bands I haven't heard before. Sometimes I even like them. That said, the last CD I bought was the most recent Iron Maiden release...
Chris_V wrote: I'm 50 and I've heard of all of them. Don't necessarily like any of them, but I've heard of them. You guys dissapoint me in your closed off asshattery once something leaves your crap car comfort zone.
I have heard of most of the bands in this thread. I bet most of these people have too they are just trying be difficult. Although TBH I would have prefered to have never of heard of most pop bands.
HiTempguy wrote:Maroon92 wrote: Mostly a commentary on how oblivious most of the people who commented in this thread are to current events and trends. I am neither here nor there on Maroon 5. As pop music goes, they are better than Ke$ha or whatever.No, I think it's a commentary on the fact that most of the people who commented in this thread could give a crap about famous people, and even less of a crap about pop music. Oh, and that you are possibly a pop culture snob.
Yes, this.
I must be old, or ignorant, or not live in the "real" world. other than the Stones or Elvis, I have no idea who any of these people are.
Edit: I have heard of Paris Hilton, but other than being the kid of the Hilton guy, and that she's had a lot of press over some tape, I don't know, I am sure I couldn't pick her out of a crowd.
I used to watch SNL in high school, but not since.
The closest I get to TV (if you don't count programs aimed at 3 year old kids) is watching reruns of Top Gear on netflix when I'm going to sleep. Does that mean I don't live in the real world? Or is it the artificial world that's created by the very culture we're talking about? If Hollywood and the music industry dropped off the face of the world tomorrow, who would tell us we were missing anything?
I like modern music. I just happen to listen to an alternative music station, so I don't hear much of the trendy E36 M3.
Chris_V wrote: I'm 50 and I've heard of all of them. Don't necessarily like any of them, but I've heard of them. You guys dissapoint me in your closed off asshattery once something leaves your crap car comfort zone.
hey .... you understand the phrase berkeley off ? really don't see where you have the right to accuse me ( or any of the others ) of asshattery that don't listen to the same kind of music that you do ... I'm sure there are LOTS of bands out there that you haven't heard of ... many that I might like .. but I wouldn't consider you an shiny happy person for not knowing them ( for other reasons maybe, but not your lack of knowledge of the music I like )
My initial gripe was that too many people give up on new music by the age of 30.
I'm pretty damned close, though I am going to see my buddy Matt's band open for Young Widows this weekend; closest thing I've heard to Hoover (and apparently, they're big Hoover fans, as a couple of the dudes used to have a band called "Breather Resist.")
I think most dudes hold stuff (cars, music...chicks...not in that order) that they enjoyed in High School super-sacred. My ratio of "90's and earlier to 2000 and up" is undoubtedly something like 95:5.
The stuff I've bought recently still doesn't touch my "old" CDs...tapes...records...etc.
And yeah, I'd "heard" of Maroon 5. I just wouldn't know their singer if I saw him (obviously,) and am still confused as to why being the singer of a MEDIOCRE AT BEST pop/craprock band gets you an invite to host SNL. I could understand it if dude was an actor or whatever.
poopshovel wrote: I think most dudes hold stuff (cars, music...chicks...not in that order) that they enjoyed in High School super-sacred. My ratio of "90's and earlier to 2000 and up" is undoubtedly something like 95:5.
Most of what happened in High School sucked. About the only thing I like that I still liked back in highschool is my girlfriend (we've been together for 10 years this summer), and my best friend. Pretty much everything else sucks.
Then again, I graduated in 2005... Post 9/11, this country's "culture" was pretty crappy for a few years.
Maroon92 wrote: Most of what happened in High School sucked.
This much we agree on, even though I graduated in '90. I just think high school sucks.
ransom wrote:Maroon92 wrote: Most of what happened in High School sucked.This much we agree on, even though I graduated in '90. I just think high school sucks.![]()
I think we can all agree on this. I graduated in 2000. No, none of the music around at that time is on my go-to list with very few exceptions.
I graduated in '90
Then again, I graduated in 2005
Once again, you guys are proving my argument, as all the cool E36 M3 came out after 1990 and before 2000.
PROOF:
ALL three of the best Sunny Day Real Estate records.
Enter the Wu Tang, and shortly after, the CREAM of the crop of solo releases.
THE BULK of Fugazi's work - Repeater through End Hits.
EVERY JAWBREAKER record came out from 90-2000.
Kool Keith/Dr. Octagon/Black Elvis's best E36 M3. 90-2000.
Hieroglyphics "Third Eye Vision." Hell, I don't even know why I'm mentioning specific hip hop records, the 90's was THE peak of hip hop.
Shudder to Think's 2 best records were released in 94 and 96(?)
The only Smashing Pumpkins stuff that was worth a E36 M3 came out in the early 90's.
The list goes on and on.
Go two years back from '90 and you've got 1988 - the year EVERY berkeleyING METAL BAND worth a E36 M3 at the time made their BEST record...(excluding a couple. Maiden peaked before then.)
N Sperlo wrote: I like modern music. I just happen to listen to an alternative music station, so I don't hear much of the trendy E36 M3.
I'm a big alt rock fan myself. The '60's and most of the '70's spawned some pretty damn good music, such as Pink Floyd, early Stones, early Led Zep, etc etc Then disco hit and I wanted to put a bullet through my ears.
Don't get me wrong, there was some decent stuff in the '80's such as Rush, Van Halen and a lot of the punk bands (which were pretty much underground at the time) but it wasn't until grunge and alt came on the scene that I felt music was finally back.
Now we are flooded with fluffy pop boy bands which are like disco all over again. ARRRRRGGGGGHHH.
poopshovel wrote: The only Smashing Pumpkins stuff that was worth a E36 M3 came out in the early 90's.
I just bought a copy of 'Siamese Dream' (1993) to replace the one my berkeleying ex wife lost. I also just replaced my scratched to hell Pearl Jam 'Ten'.
Curmudgeon wrote:poopshovel wrote: The only Smashing Pumpkins stuff that was worth a E36 M3 came out in the early 90's.I just bought a copy of 'Siamese Dream' (1993) to replace the one my berkeleying ex wife lost. I also just replaced my scratched to hell Pearl Jam 'Ten'.
I've lost count of how many copies of Siamese Dream and Gish I've owned. I bought yet another of each right before Christmas a couple years ago, and threw in that collection of singles while I was at it (Pisces Iscariot or some E36 M3?) It's got "Plume" and "Smiley" on it, which I have on vinyl and rule. Can't remember what the hell I was working on, but it was an every night till midnight thing, and I had those 3 discs on constant rotation. It was nice. I personally think Siamese Dream is one of the best engineered rock records ever. Certainly leaps and bounds more "deep" sounding than anything else at the time. I think they had like 20 guitar tracks on some of the tunes. Call it "over-engineered" if you want...then listen to that E36 M3 LOUD on a good set of speakers.
If you dig that record, you should check out "Downward is Heavenward" by HUM.
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