Stampie
Stampie MegaDork
9/1/22 5:46 p.m.

If you want to make one of the above livable in a semi permanent way how do you do it.  I understand electrical hook ups but I'm not an expert in E36 M3 removal.  Could you have a septic system in place and just hook up to it?  I guess cap the hook up when you take it away?  I'm thinking like a parking slab that I can back it up on and without too much trouble hook and unhook if needed.

Apexcarver
Apexcarver UltimaDork
9/1/22 5:52 p.m.

I think much depends on if it sees freezing temperatures 

Stampie
Stampie MegaDork
9/1/22 6:07 p.m.

In reply to Apexcarver :

No freezing.  Basically looking at a temp home in FL until I retire and then build the real home.  I mean it might see like a couple of over night lows below 32 but I could do simple insulation to avoid issues. 

SV reX
SV reX MegaDork
9/1/22 6:59 p.m.

Yes you can. 
 

You need to own a lot with septic or sewer hookup, or rent one. 
 

Florida... that's what those RV parks are for!

03Panther
03Panther UberDork
9/1/22 8:42 p.m.

In reply to Stampie :

Co worker I lost track of, but could probably find, bought some acreage near lake city fl. Since he travels for work with a rv, he put 5 more hookups in while he did his. Bit far from Jax, but right up your alley 

VolvoHeretic
VolvoHeretic Reader
9/1/22 8:48 p.m.

A slab is nice with embedded tie downs rings to secure the structure. Otherwize, drill anchors with a big sheet of sheet polyvinyl over the ground and then your blocking. Plus skirting.

Pete Gossett (Forum Supporter)
Pete Gossett (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
9/2/22 8:01 a.m.

In reply to Stampie :

One caveat: RV black tanks aren't really designed to flow like residential plumbing. So it's a good idea to wait & dump your black tank until it's almost full, and back flush it using a fitting on your sewer hose.

Leaving the black tank dump valve open & just using a large quantity of water may work, since you don't have to worry about the black tank capacity. But poo-pyramids don't sound fun to deal with. 

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
9/2/22 10:28 a.m.

Yeah... don't leave the black tank open.  Ever.  Poo pyramids are real and nearly impossible to get rid of.

Plan on dumping the black tank more frequently than you think.  Not because you should dump it before it's full, but because it will get full much faster than you expect.  Many of them are around 35 gallons, and with two people using the bathroom a couple times a day it will fill up in a week or less.  Having on-site septic/sewer is ideal.  If you don't have that option, be prepared to  break camp every 5 days or so and find an RV park, truck stop, or other RV dump site.

If you have a sewer hookup, make sure you know the laws regarding what you can and can't put in a municipal line.  If you have septic, don't ever use the blue chemical.  It's a formaldehyde derivative that is designed to make things not smell.  It accomplishes that by halting bacterial growth.  One treatment of that in a septic tank can mean many years of a non-working septic system.  Instead use a septic bacterial culture like Zep-o-zyme or Septo-Bac.  You can supplement with bran flour.  Evidently bran flour is a superfood for the bacteria and fungus that break down stuff.

As far as removing the tank and going directly to a sewer line, yes you can, but I would strongly suggest getting a residential toilet.  RV lavs are a hole in the floor with a tank.  They focus on using the least amount of water.  When you hook up to a long sewer line, that isn't enough water to get things downstream.  So, if you ever plan on moving it or taking it on trips, keep the RV toilet and tank and periodically dump.  If you're removing the tank and hooking to sewer, replace with a residential potty.

When I full-timed, I had pretty good luck with negotiating a monthly rate at an RV park.  That gets you all the hookups.

Stampie
Stampie MegaDork
9/2/22 8:18 p.m.

Sorry I've been on the road all day today.  While pumping my black water tank and E36 M3 pyramids sound like fun I'm more of a flush it and hope to never see it again type.  I'm rethinking my plan and maybe do a more permanent tiny home type build.  Maybe something modular that I can expand later.

SV reX
SV reX MegaDork
9/2/22 8:33 p.m.

In reply to Stampie :

Tiny homes still need septic or sewer hookups.

03Panther
03Panther PowerDork
9/3/22 12:35 a.m.
Stampie said:

  While pumping my black water tank and E36 M3 pyramids sound like fun 

Like owning an old "unreliable" car, as long as you do things correctly, it ain't that bad! Ignore proper maint. at your own peril. 

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
9/3/22 11:35 a.m.

I full-timed for 6+ years.  It was great.  Hitch up, go to a town you always wanted to experience, stay as long as you want, get a job for some scratch, rinse, repeat.  I got to experience 49 states and lived in a dozen cities - some for three years, others for three months.

I would lean toward the tiny home thing unless you buy an older RV and fix it up.  Newer RVs (post 2000-ish) are pretty universally considered junk.

Stampie
Stampie MegaDork
9/3/22 12:12 p.m.

In reply to Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) :

The idea was more of getting something for shelter cheap as it'd likely be a weekend get away until I retire.  I think just starting a small house would be just as cheap as building something mobile.  I could do like my grandfather.  When my mom was a baby they started out with a one room house.  Then as he got money he'd add on rooms until they had the full house.

SV reX
SV reX MegaDork
9/3/22 4:37 p.m.

Do you own land?

 

Id just start building a small house. Unless you need to finance... that would be different. 

Gearheadotaku (Forum Supporter)
Gearheadotaku (Forum Supporter) UltimaDork
9/3/22 5:14 p.m.

If you own the land its a perfect time to build a shop with a bathroom in it. Now park your trailer inside for temp living  quarters until you build your house.  Bonus, the trailer/RV will last much much longer with a roof over it.

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