Looking for Tim Suddard

Tim, just found your site while searching for a Suddard decendent. I have a '51 F-6 that was bought from your grandfather, I presume, and I was hoping to get a bit of info on it if there is any left to be had.

Now, that's pretty cool, especially if there IS a relation....

I think there is:

Even if there's no relation this is pretty dang cool. Welcome, Worth!

thanx, I went to the wonderful Mass. DMV today to ask about getting a title for it and evidently found the wrong woman at the wrong time of the month. After she was done reaming me for 10 minutes for no apparent reason, she gave me a large list of info she needed so I figured I'd go find a different DMV office tomorrow. And I figured I'd try to back door the chain of ownership if there are any records left to be found. The dealership was sold a few years ago, so I googled the Old name and came up with this site. Figured it was worth a shot.

Eric

Yep....

https://classicmotorsports.com/staff/TimS/

This is neat!

"Born in 1960 in Wareham Massachusetts, Tim Suddard grew up the son and grandson of a Ford dealer. He began restoring cars at the age of 14 and still has the first car he restored, a 1929 Ford that his grandfather had sold brand new."

I grew up playing with Fords and getting parts and info from the Guys at Suddard, it was by far the best Ford dealer around, if I had a memory I'd give names, but I was no good with names before I got old, now it's not even a thought. They had a parts guy that new fords by heart, most of them time he didn't need the books to get me what I needed. I'd tell him what I was after and he'd go to the shelf and grab it. I actually grew up in the Hyannis, Yarmouth, Dennis area on the Cape, but it was worth the 45 minute ride to Suddard. When I found the '51 on a bog in Wareham and saw the Suddard Chrome I wanted it, but I was already 2 behind on project cars and figured I'd die before I got to it. So I showed it to my boss and he bought it. Just trying to title it now.

Damn, it just doesn't get more GRM/CM than this, now does it?  Awesome!

Welcome, sir, and thanks for taking time to find this place and share this.

I posted this on his Facebook page.  You could try emailing the company directly as well.

I suspect they are all pretty busy with Daytona 24 Hours prep work, but someone will eventually respond.

Wow, cool find. Tim's on the road, but I just pinged him. 

that is awesome.  

Yes, that certainly came from the dealership. A used truck could have gotten that emblem put on it too. Glad to help. The dealership started on main street in 1927 (present day fire station-I am told). It moved out to route 28 and then the new building was built in 1967. My dad and his brother Ben, took over in about 1962, and was totally immersed when H.A. Herbert Alvin (my grandfarther) passed away in 1964.

thanks for the response Tim, I actually found out you guys originally sold it to the Town of Fairhaven, so I'm heading my search in that direction tomorrow. If anyone is interested I will check back  in when I figure this all out.

Good luck in Daytona

Eric Johnson

Worth said:

thanks for the response Tim, I actually found out you guys originally sold it to the Town of Fairhaven, so I'm heading my search in that direction tomorrow. If anyone is interested I will check back  in when I figure this all out.

Good luck in Daytona

 

Eric Johnson

Suffice to say we are interested!

In reply to Worth :

Yes, please do keep us up to speed with your discovery. So cool!

Worth said:

thanx, I went to the wonderful Mass. DMV today to ask about getting a title for it and evidently found the wrong woman at the wrong time of the month. After she was done reaming me for 10 minutes for no apparent reason, she gave me a large list of info she needed so I figured I'd go find a different DMV office tomorrow. And I figured I'd try to back door the chain of ownership if there are any records left to be found. The dealership was sold a few years ago, so I googled the Old name and came up with this site. Figured it was worth a shot.

Eric

 

If i'm reading right, you are trying to research the ownership chain on a nearly 70 year old truck for purposes of titling the truck.  These requirements for titling vary by state and I suspect that Mass is a very strict and difficult state on these maters.  

You might find that the requirements of other states are more simplistic.  I have no direct experience but I seem to remember hearing that Maine is relatively easy.  You might want to search that route to obtaining a title in Maine.  Once you obtain that title it is probably then easy to obtain a Mass title. 

In reply to John Welsh :

Having just registered and titled a former Maine-registered vehicle in MA yesterday, it was somehow the easiest transaction I have ever had at the MA RMV. I was utterly shocked.

If this guy can somehow get a hold of a Maine Registration and Bill Of Sale for this vehicle, they should be golden. 

Also, the Plymouth, MA RMV is the best one. They are usually pleasant and helpful and not at all like Satan's Armpit (the Braintree one) and Satan's Crotch (the Taunton one). They even renovated the place last year and have a registration "express line"!

Six degrees of Tim Suddard.

TY, John and Tony, Plymouth was actually my next choice. The only reason I hit Yarmouth first was I paid the sales tax on it at the DOR office in Hyannis. The Yarmouth visit was an exploratory gone wrong . The good thing is no paperwork changed hands there so I can start fresh in Plymouth. As for the Maine thing, New Hampshire is the same and I knew about that route, I was just hoping it wouldn't be a horror show here. I honestly thought the sales tax was going to be the big thing, the DOR likes to put unrealistic values on old cars even if you buy them for parts so I went there first. That went extremely smoothly.

      I didn't get out of town yesterday so I'm going to head out to Fairhaven today just for kicks, then I'll circle around to Plymouth and see what I can find out there.

Thanks again; Eric

OK, for everyone doing business in Mass. I've been buying old cars and trucks for 50 years or so and every time it is a different set of rules in Massachusetts. But they seem to have outdone themselves this time.

Evidently no-one can sell a car in Massachusetts without a title anymore, so I can not apply for a title regardless of how many hoops I jump threw until the guy I bought it from gets a title in his name to sell it to me. Now I'm motivated to get a title, but you know the guy I bought it from will not be so motivated.  And since in this case he is the 3rd owner with no title they could deny his application and try to go to the previous owner. And you know that will never happen.

I'm thinking we're off to plan "B" a bit North of here.

It's funny when you try to do things the right way our government makes it impossible.

Eric

Vermont is pretty easy for motorcycles. I have never tried to do a car through them. 

I think all you need is a copy of a MA registration in the sellers name that matches the bill of sale. All MA wants is proof that tax was paid on it.

A bit out of your neck of the woods but Tennessee is extremely easy for cars older than 30 years and less than $3000, both criteria which I feel this vehicle neatly fits under.

In reply to dean1484 :

There is no Mass registration, Town of Fairhaven is the only owner that had it registered, and it is not in the Registries computer, too old.  I was at the Fairhaven DPW, the oldest record she had was for a '71 vehicle. And I already paid the sales tax on it, that was easy. According to the registry you can no longer sell a car in Ma. without first applying for a title, so the person I bought it from has to get the title, then I can buy it.

I think the Easy Button for you is going to be:  Move out of Massachusetts. Pick a Free State.  In Arkansas, for example, that could be registered and titled as an antique vehicle with just a Bill of Sale and insurance.