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LainfordExpress
LainfordExpress Reader
9/30/12 9:16 p.m.

Ok, so, we have these Honda Challenge cars more or less ready to go. I'd like some people to test them on a few different tracks, as mutantracing1 and I have been only testing them on Road Atlanta. Specifically, I'd like racerfink to test each car on Sebring Full, TheBootsy on whatever track is his favorite, mutantracing1 on Camino Viejo Long, and any other volunteers. Drive each car for five laps and post the times here, maybe make some suggestions on adjustments to the cars too.

Ok, the builds: these are based on the rulebook as I interpreted it. I tried to keep the cars as close to their published weight requirement (this is simulating the H3 class) and then adjusted for competitiveness.

1995 Honda CR-X del sol (Not the same as in my storefront as I noticed a few errors with it, also, it hasn't been play tested as much, so I don't really know how it'll do against the other cars).

Street Ignition, Sport Exhaust, Race Compression, Race Oil &Cooling, Sport Flywheel, Street Brakes, Sport Dampers & Springs, Race Front &Raer Anti-Roll Bars, Race Cage, Race Weight, Race Clutch, Sport Transmission, Race Diff, Race Compound 225mm Tire Width Front & Rear, Gram Lights T57-RC Wheels.

1999 Honda Civic Si

Sport Air Filter, Sport Exhaust, Street Oil & Cooling, Race Flywheel, Street Brakes, Sport Sprints & Dampers, Racer Front & Rear Anti-Roll Bars, Race Cage, Race Weight Reduction, Race Clutch, Sport Transmission, Sport Driveline, Race Differential, Race Tire Compound, 225 Front & Rear Tire Width, 5Zigen FN01R-C Wheels. All else stock.

2000 Honda Prelude

Sport Air Filter, Race Exhaust, Race Flywheel, Street Brakes, Sport Springs & Dampers, Race Front & Rear Anti-Roll Bars, Race Cage, Street Race Reduction, Street Weight Reduction, Race Clutch, Sport Transmission, Sport Driveline, Race Differential, Race Tire Compound, 225mm Tire Width, 5Zigen FN01C-R Wheels. All else stock.

2001 Acura Integra Type-R

Sport Exhaust, Race Flywheel, Street Brakes, Sport Springs & Dampers, Race Front & Rear Anti-Roll Bars, Race Cage, Street Weight Reduction, Race Clutch, Sport Transmission, Race Driveline, Race Differential, Race Tire Compound, 225 Front & Rear Tire Width, Gram Lights 57C Wheels. All else stock.

2002 Acura RSX Type-S

Sport Air Filter, Race Exhaust, Race Flywheel, Street Brakes, Sport Springs & Dampers, Race Front & Rear Anti-Roll Bars, Race Cage, Street Weight Reduction, Race Clutch, Sport Transmission, Race Driveline, Race Differential, Race Tire Compound, 225mm Front & Rear Tire Width, Buddy Club P1 Racing QF Wheels. All else stock.

2006 Honda Civic Si

Sport Air Filter, Street Exhaust, Sport Oil & Cooling, Sport Flywheel, Street Brakes, Sport Springs & Dampers, Race Front & Rear Anti-Roll Bars, Race Cage, Sport Weight Reduction, Race Clutch, Sport Transmission, Street Driveline, Race Differential, Race Tire Compound, 225mm Front & Rear Tire Width, Compmotive M05 Wheels. All else stock.

Also, I've posted all these on my storefront, keyword "Honda Challenge".

Currently the plan is to run this the same night as the Unofficial GRM Forza NASA Mustang-Camaro Challenge, but at 8:00PM Eastern. This way, Eastern Time Zone people have something that is at a good time for them (Honda Challenge), Pacific Time Zone have something that is at a good time for them (Mustang-Camaro) and the truly hardcore can do both.

poopshovel
poopshovel UltimaDork
10/1/12 8:10 a.m.

Can't wait! Which night are we talking about?

LainfordExpress
LainfordExpress Reader
10/1/12 10:23 a.m.

Weren't we talking Mondays?

"Somebodies got a case of the Mondays!"

Anti-stance
Anti-stance SuperDork
10/1/12 12:47 p.m.

Yeah, I believe we were going to do Mondays so Dustoffdave could participate for the west coast series. I am starting a new job that will require an early bedtime so I may only be running this 8pm Eastern thing and watching the second half of MNF while falling alseep.

LainfordExpress
LainfordExpress Reader
10/1/12 2:51 p.m.

Unofficial Grassroots Motorsports Forza 4 NASA Honda Challenge H3 Schedule

10/9 - Road Atlanta Full - 2.54 mi - 18 Laps - 45.72 miles

10/16 - Infineon Sears Point Long - 2.52 mi - 18 Laps - 45.36 miles

10/23 - Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca - 2.24 mi - 20 Laps - 44.80 miles

10/30 - Sebring Short - 2.00 mi - 23 Laps - 46.00 miles

11/6 - Nurburgring GP Short - 2.24 mi - 20 Laps - 44.80 miles

11/13 - Sunset Peninsula Club Reverse - 1.94 mi - 23 Laps - 44.62 miles

11/20 - Suzuka West 2.15 mi - 21 Laps - 45.15 miles

racerfink
racerfink SuperDork
10/1/12 6:02 p.m.

Here's a very handy list I found for wheel weights. The +0 is the lightest wheel you can buy, +3 is the next lightest wheels, and so on down the list.

TSW +0 lb Trackstar4

Dymag +0 lb 9 Spoke

Konig +0 lb After Burner

Hole Shot Wh... +0 lb Hole Star

RS Watanabe +0 lb Cyclone

Zender +0 lb Challenge

Buddy Club +0 lb Pl Racing QF

Weld Racing +0 lb Magnum III

Volk Racing +0 lb RE30

Hole Shot Wh... +0 lb Sun Star

Hole Shot Wh... +0 lb Solid

Kosei +3 lb Kl-Racing TS-Version

WedsSport +3 lb SA-97 F

Enkei +3 lb RPF1

Konig +3 lb Daylite

Advan +3 lb RGII

Motegi Racing +3 lb TRAKLITE 2.0

Motegi Racing +3 lb TRAKLITE 1.0

WedsSport +3 lb TC 105 N

Rota +6 lb J.SPL

Fikse +6 lb Profil 5

Fikse +6 lb Profil 5S

Team Dynamic... +6 lb Pro Race 2

Mickey Thomp... +6 lb ET Drag

Volk Racing +6 lb TE37

Konig +6 lb Britelite

Work +6 lb XD9

Weld Racing +6 lb AlumaStar 2.0 Drag Race

WedsSport +6 lb SA-70

Cragar +6 lb Bonneville Series 391

Compomotive +6 lb CXR

Team Dynamic... +9 lb Pro Race 1

Speedline Co... +9 lb 2014

5Zigen +9 lb FN01R-C

Advan +9 lb Super Advan Racing V...

Gemballa +9 lb Le Mans

BBS +9 lb RK

Motegi Racing +9 lb SP10

Gram Lights +13 lb 57 OPTIMISE

iForged +13 lb Astra

HRE +13 lb 546R

iForged +13 lb Fabulous

Gram Lights +13 lb 57C

5Zigen +13 lb ZR+520

Blitz +13 lb Technospeed Zl

Enkei +13 lb NT03+M

Gemballa +16 lb Turbo Sport

BBS +16 lb RS-GT

BBS +16 lb RE

ATS +16 lb Classic

Zender +16 lb Dynamic

Modulare +16 lb M7

Center Line +16 lb Auto Drag III

Hamann +16 lb Edition Race

HRE +16 lb 445R

Gram Lights +16 lb T57-RC

Rota +16 lb Tarmac 3

Racing Hart +18 lb J5 Pro

Modulare +19 lb M3

Rota +19 lb P45R

Momo +19 lb GTR

Racing Dynam... +19 lb RS 2 Modular

Tenzo R +19 lb DC-6 V1

Work +19 lb CRkai

Oettinger +19 lb Type RXX

5Zigen +19 lb GN+

TSW +19 lb Catalunya

Tenzo R +19 lb RS-5

Brabus +19 lb Monoblock IV

Brabus +19 lb MonoblockS

Brabus +19 lb Monoblock VI

Kosei +19 lb RT SPORT

Boyd codding... +19 lb Slayer

Borbet +19 lb CB

Blitz +19 lb Technospeed Type 03

Halibrand +19 lb Sprint II

Fikse +19 lb FM/10

Hamann +19 lb PG-1I1

Cragar +23 lb S/S Super Sport

Cragar +23 lb Street Lock D Window

Dropstars +23 lb DS03

American Rac... +23 lb Torq-Thrust M

Work +23 lb Equip 01

RO_JA Motors... +23 lb R2-5

Zender +23 lb Turbo 2

American Rac... +23 lb outlaw II

Enkei +23 lb RS6

Compomotive +23 lb ML

Mickey Thomp... +23 lb Classic Lock

Lorinser +23 lb LM 6

RO_JA Motors... +23 lb R2-7

Racing Hart +23 lb C4

Momo +23 lb TEN-S

OZ Racing +23 lb superleggera III Forged

Oettinger +26 lb Type RE

Borbet +26 lb A

Lorinser +26 lb RSK 6

OZ Racing +26 lb Superturismo GT

TSW +26 lb Hockenheim R

Cragar +26 lb Smoothie

Compomotive +26 lb TH2

Asanti +29 lb AF134

Asanti +29 lb AFl18

Racing Dynam... +29 lb RGS

Work +29 lb Design DH

Asanti +29 lb AF140

Compomotive +29 lb MO5

Enkei +29 lb Tarmac Evo

Lexani +55 lb Mistik Spikes

Lexani +55 lb LTC-704

DUB +55 lb Big Chips

Lowenhart +55 lb LDR

DUB +55 lb Presidential

Lexani +55 lb LTC-701

N Sperlo
N Sperlo PowerDork
10/1/12 6:04 p.m.

Weekdays? No bueno, Carlos.

griffin729
griffin729 HalfDork
10/2/12 4:43 a.m.

In reply to racerfink:

Here's the same thing with pictures.

http://www.myforza.net/f4/rimlist.php?range=128&amp%3bpage=1

racerfink
racerfink SuperDork
10/2/12 5:23 a.m.

I have that page saved on my computer. Just copied and pasted, then took out the credit amount and double spaced for format on this site.

szeis4cookie
szeis4cookie Reader
10/2/12 5:55 a.m.

I built out the cars per the spec, will try and do some play testing over the week and post as I manage to find time.

LainfordExpress
LainfordExpress Reader
10/2/12 2:59 p.m.

I'll be on practicing tonight, from around 7:00PM.

poopshovel
poopshovel UltimaDork
10/2/12 3:03 p.m.

I'll try to hop on as well. Prolly 8:30 at the earliest though.

Anti-stance
Anti-stance SuperDork
10/2/12 3:05 p.m.

I will get on too. Have to be off by 10pm though because I am a Sons of Anarchy dork.

mutant
mutant New Reader
10/4/12 7:02 a.m.

i will be on tonight(thurs) if anyone wants to do some laps...

Fit_Is_Slo (ceasarromero)
Fit_Is_Slo (ceasarromero) HalfDork
10/4/12 9:37 a.m.

i might have to get into this one

LainfordExpress
LainfordExpress Reader
10/4/12 11:37 a.m.

I will probably not be on tonight, I'm working late with the real racing team.

Also, updated above to show the schedule I've decided on.

N Sperlo
N Sperlo PowerDork
10/4/12 12:17 p.m.

Probably won't make the races, but could someone putan an eligible tuning setup in their marketplace?

racerfink
racerfink SuperDork
10/5/12 2:20 p.m.

Testing out the cars. Just did three laps each in online race conditions. Will go back and tune on them a little and try again.

'01 Integra Type-R @ Sebring 2:27.182

That's EXTREMELY fast for Sebring. Do Honda Challenge cars run on slicks normally? Car is very stable and easy to drive.

racerfink
racerfink SuperDork
10/5/12 2:21 p.m.
N Sperlo wrote: Probably won't make the races, but could someone putan an eligible tuning setup in their marketplace?

I'm pretty sure Lainford has them on his storefront. It might have been somebody else's that I was looking at this morning...

racerfink
racerfink SuperDork
10/5/12 2:33 p.m.

'02 RSX @ Sebring 2:30.317

Car just doesn't have the power compared to the other Acura. 160lbs more, and the same horsepower.

racerfink
racerfink SuperDork
10/5/12 2:57 p.m.

'99 Civic @ Sebring 2:28.683

Missed the gearing a bit. Will definitely be faster with better gearing.

racerfink
racerfink SuperDork
10/5/12 3:31 p.m.

'00 Prelude @ Sebring 2:28.542

Gearing is off on this one too. Barely using fifth gear right now.

LainfordExpress
LainfordExpress Reader
10/5/12 3:46 p.m.
racerfink wrote: Do Honda Challenge cars run on slicks normally?

Toyo Proxes RA-1, is that a slick? Last year they opened it up to Hoosiers and BFG because of tsunami /flooding affected availability.

racerfink
racerfink SuperDork
10/5/12 3:52 p.m.

'06 Civic Si @ Sebring 2:27.451

Missed the gearing on this one too, but not as much as the last two cars. Really strong feeling car, just a little too much slide in the corners.

LainfordExpress
LainfordExpress Reader
10/5/12 4:02 p.m.
racerfink wrote: '02 RSX @ Sebring 2:30.317 Car just doesn't have the power compared the the other Acura. 160lbs more, and the same horsepower.

This surprised me because at Road Atlanta I'm a few tenths faster in the RSX.

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