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Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
12/21/23 8:29 p.m.

Skip to the end if you don't want the whole story.

Back in the early 2000s, I had still been using my 14' aluminum runabout that my parents had gifted me when I was 12.  It was a 1958 Sea King with a 1963 Evinrude 10hp motor.  I eventually upgraded to a Merc 25, but my (now ex) wife didn't feel safe in it on rough water.  She loved boating and the water, but she green-lit getting a bigger boat.  For her, it should be luxury and safety.  For me it had to be fast.  For both of us newlyweds, it had to be cheap.

I found this Baja in Baltimore while I was home visiting for the holiday.  It was terrible.  The trailer was not set up properly and it had negative tongue weight.  Just to get it hitched, I had to get in and walk toward the front so we could get the tongue out of the air.  I transferred a bunch of junk from the bed of the truck to the front of the boat just so it would tow.

The factory 305 was seized, the floor was rotten, and the engine stringers were so rotted that they had grass growing out of them.  I gutted it.  Stripped it down, replaced the motor stringers, and replaced the floor.  I more or less just dropped in a piece of plywood knowing that I would have to finish it properly later.  I pulled the outdrive, gimbal, and engine.  The gimbal was so corroded that I couldn't get some of the bolts out, so it went for scrap and I found another one.  The outdrive went to the marina for a rebuild.  The 305 went into a scrap pile.  I pulled the heads and pan and realize there was nothing about it I could salvage, nor would I want to, because 305.

The factory rear bench was missing, so I measured a bunch of rear seats from extended cab trucks and discovered that one from a Dodge Dakota was perfect.  The seat part folds up for more floor space, and the seat back folds down for access to the front of the engine.  Had it reupholstered in white vinyl and put it in.

I bought a nice used trailer for it.  The seller had a 21' Grady White on it and the surge brakes failed.  He sold it to me for $200 instead of doing the repairs.  I didn't need brakes for a 2200-lb boat, so I snagged it, replaced a few rusted bolts, and dropped the Baja on it.  Ironically, I sold the junk trailer that came with the boat for $500 to a guy who was making a BBQ trailer.

I built a nice 350 Vortec for it (well, bought a reman shortblock and finished it).  9.5:1 with a mild cam, Holley marine carb, GMPP intake from a Volvo Penta, aluminum exhaust manifolds to shave a few pounds, and put it in the water.  I was pleased that GPS speed was 60+ mph.

Skip ahead a few years to when I was getting a divorce.  Realizing I had built this thing primarily for my wife, I didn't want it anymore.  My friend stepped in and bought it from me and took it with him to TX.  I just sold it for what I had in it which was $3500.

Skip ahead again to last year.  He moved from TX to ME for work and left the boat behind at a friend's house.  He called me and said that it's mine if I want it.  That friend ended up selling his property and the boat needed to move.  GRM relay to the rescue.... lownslow went and retrieved it.  I just got back to PA yesterday with a boat I bought in 2003, sold in 2013, and re-acquired for free in 2023.

It's wasted.  I think my friend bought it to save my ego, parked it in his back yard for 10 years, and never touched it.  The TX sun has killed everything.  The carpet has turned to powder, the vinyl has turned into corn flakes, and the wood has all rotted.  The fish finder screen is wasted (but it's also 20 years old), and the gauges are all hazed.  One of the reasons I chose a Baja was because they built their hulls with all fiberglass.  Most 'glass boats use a plywood core sandwiched with 'glass, but this one is a hull of 1-1/4" solid fiberglass.  I knew it could never rot where it counts.

*TL;DR...*

Now accepting wild ideas, crazy thoughts, and creative photoshops.

I desperately want to modify the gunwales.  I want to use structural foam for flooring, and I'm entertaining the possibility of alternate powerplants.  Whatever it is, it needs to mate up to an SBC bellhousing pattern, unless someone knows if any I/Os use a different pattern.

It's going to be nicely dressed in some color/decals/etc.  I want it to look like a million bucks.

Everything is on the table.  I'll be buying some vacuum bags for laminating, I weld, and I'm a whiz with wood and screws.  This is a long-term project because I don't have much free time or garage space.  More pictures later.

DeadSkunk  (Warren)
DeadSkunk (Warren) UltimaDork
12/22/23 7:53 a.m.

OK, I'll be the first to say it........throw a 5.3 aluminum block LS in there. Bolts right up and makes easy 300HP. How much power will the outdrive take?

jfryjfry
jfryjfry UltraDork
12/22/23 9:48 a.m.

But doesnt it still have a pretty new 350 in it???

Snowdoggie (Forum Supporter)
Snowdoggie (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
12/22/23 10:31 a.m.

I have an old Bayliner that needs new stringers and a new floor. Very interested in watching how you do yours.

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
12/22/23 10:41 a.m.

In reply to Snowdoggie (Forum Supporter) :

I'll share my zinger joke about Bayliners...
Q: Do you know why Bayliners don't have port hole windows into the cutty cabin?
A: You don't need them, the sunlight shines right through the fiberglass!  

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
12/22/23 10:42 a.m.

In reply to Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) :

Your Baja has nice, clean classic lines.  She's a looker.  Is it closed bow or open?  

 

Though possibly functional, I just can't wrap my head around the looks of some of the newer stuff:

Indy - Guy
Indy - Guy UltimaDork
12/22/23 11:30 a.m.
jfryjfry said:

But doesnt it still have a pretty new 350 in it???

With all the other work the boat's going to require, why not just use (and freshen up if needed) the reman. 350 you already put in it?

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
12/22/23 12:27 p.m.
DeadSkunk (Warren) said:

OK, I'll be the first to say it........throw a 5.3 aluminum block LS in there. Bolts right up and makes easy 300HP. How much power will the outdrive take?

About 300.  Maybe 350hp with a drive shower.  I can pretty easily get 350 out of the SBC in it without exhaust reversion, but it is all iron.

I looked into LS marinization parts 20 years ago.  Unless a lot has changed, things like marine exhaust are stoopid expensive.

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
12/22/23 12:33 p.m.

In reply to Snowdoggie (Forum Supporter) :

The way I did it last time seems to work fine.  I cut the top of the fiberglass on the motor stringers and scooped out the rotted wood.  I partially filled the cavity with epoxy mixed with some microfiber and squished in oak 2x6s.  Covered the top with a layer of glass cloth and glass mat soaked in more epoxy.  I laid plastic wrap over the top and clamped it down to squeeze the old fiberglass to the new.

The floor was an afterthought, honestly.  I pulled out the old rotted stuff, shoveled out the wet foam, and just laid a piece of marine plywood over it so I had a floor.  I will be pricing out some Diab foam this time

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
12/22/23 12:34 p.m.

In reply to John Welsh :

Open bow.  I have dreams of two ladies in bikinis (or no bikinis) riding up front.

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
12/22/23 12:36 p.m.
Indy - Guy said:
jfryjfry said:

But doesnt it still have a pretty new 350 in it???

With all the other work the boat's going to require, why not just use (and freshen up if needed) the reman. 350 you already put in it?

Agreed.  The 350 was minty fresh 20 years ago.  Probably doesn't have 50 hours on it.  I wouldn't mind a tiny bit more cam but I don't want reversion to kill my exhaust valves.

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
12/22/23 1:34 p.m.

Here it was when I finished the first restoration:

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
12/22/23 5:00 p.m.

I snapped a couple photos of the interior carnage.

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
12/22/23 5:08 p.m.

Is that a hood scoop, air intake?!

barefootcyborg5000
barefootcyborg5000 UltimaDork
12/22/23 5:22 p.m.

That knee-board makes my teeth hurt. 

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
12/22/23 5:53 p.m.

In reply to John Welsh :

Yep.  That is indeed a functional hood scoop.  The Vortec intake is just enough taller than an old-school intake that I had to cut a hole in the cowl.  Couldn't think of a better way to cover it than a Moroso Aero scoop.

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
12/22/23 5:55 p.m.
barefootcyborg5000 said:

That knee-board makes my teeth hurt. 

It makes my cheekbone hurt.  I was on it one day and jumped the wake.  The velcro came loose and left my legs, the board nosedived into the water, popped back up like an arrow, and caught me square in the cheekbone.  I woke up as the boat was coming back around

lownslow
lownslow New Reader
12/22/23 10:24 p.m.

It was in much better shape when I had it.  smiley

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
12/23/23 1:20 p.m.

In reply to lownslow :

You want it back?  :)

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
12/23/23 7:27 p.m.

Started a thread over on ScreamandFly and as I suspected, the trolling is pretty rampant.

My little baja apparently is being remotely diagnosed as needing a whole re-core and it's not worth the astronomical money I'll spend on it.  They need to spend some time here.

11GTCS
11GTCS SuperDork
12/23/23 8:13 p.m.

In reply to Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) :

LOL, definitely a different audience over there but then again they seem like more of an outboard motor site.  I'll agree on starting with the making sure the engine and stern drive are still good to go and then move on to the cosmetics.  

I will agree that you're probably at the power / speed limit for that hull, an honest 60 mph is pretty sporty for a 19 foot hull. 

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
12/24/23 11:25 a.m.

I would think with the weight it should be pretty stable to much more than 60.  I had a 17' bass boat that would do 75.  Pretty spooky, but no one died.

1SlowVW
1SlowVW Dork
12/24/23 11:32 a.m.
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) said:

I would think with the weight it should be pretty stable to much more than 60.  I had a 17' bass boat that would do 75.  Pretty spooky, but no one died.

I think 60 should be fine, as for scream and fly. Boat guys are a different crowd.

When I rebuilt my outboard I had several people suggest that sending various parts out to specialists was the answer. Turns out that's only one possible answer.

Also, and I can't believe I'm saying this because I'm usually team ls, I think the sbc is the answer here. Only since you probably don't want through hull exhausts. 

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
12/24/23 2:44 p.m.

I knew I was talking to the wrong crowd when they started talking about super-expensive fairing compounds and paints.  I'm shooting Imron, dudes.  And fairing compound is just epoxy with powdered microfiber in it.

The floor is getting light-colored bed liner from my schutz gun.

I don't think they've heard of KISS

1SlowVW
1SlowVW Dork
12/24/23 7:15 p.m.

In reply to Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) :

Imron is nearly bulletproof, but be sure you are using a respirator and in a ventilated area. It's nasty stuff, just look at the technical data sheet.

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