Looks very Mitsubishi to me. 
Looks very Mitsubishi to me.
iceracer wrote:DrBoost wrote:regular three speed manual.arvoss wrote: The video description said that they will offer a nine speed transmission. That can't be right, can it?No, there are three engine choices (1.4L turbo, variable valve timing, 2.0L non-tubro, and later will be a 2.4L non-turbo with the variable valve timing like the 1.4L). There are two 6-speeds, a dual-dry clutch manuual and a regular three-pedal manual.
Sorry, read it again. I said "three-pedal manual", making the distinction between automated manuals and a normal, shift-it-yourself manual.
so.. how soon till it becomes a popular car that Chrysler will kill to produce a mini-suv that everyone hates?
I don't hate it and like the inside. Wouldn't buy one.
It does remind me of a new version of a Neon.
Maybe we'll see some Showroom Stock action in SCCA Club Racing.
Is this the first official Fiat based chrysler?
It looks 1000X more appealing than any other chryco product in the last decade. It seems like a giant leap in the right direction to me.
Hmmm... one of the better looking econo-boxes out there. 2 door please.
I think it is in the right direction aesthetically for Chrysler for sure. I have always had a bad taste in my mouth about Chrysler products from the 90s and 2000s. It is pretty generic but it is an improvement like someone else said over that hideous Caliber and the like. If I was looking at a Civic, Carolla, Focus, etc I'd give this car a look.
As far as nine speed auto transmissions, its gonna eventually happen. Its gonna be another 5-10 years but its coming.
Anti-stance wrote: I think it is in the right direction aesthetically for Chrysler for sure. I have always had a bad taste in my mouth about Chrysler products from the 90s and 2000s. It is pretty generic but it is an improvement like someone else said over that hideous Caliber and the like. If I was looking at a Civic, Carolla, Focus, etc I'd give this car a look. As far as nine speed auto transmissions, its gonna eventually happen. Its gonna be another 5-10 years but its coming.
Chrysler has an 8-speed coming out soon.
DrBoost wrote:Anti-stance wrote: I think it is in the right direction aesthetically for Chrysler for sure. I have always had a bad taste in my mouth about Chrysler products from the 90s and 2000s. It is pretty generic but it is an improvement like someone else said over that hideous Caliber and the like. If I was looking at a Civic, Carolla, Focus, etc I'd give this car a look. As far as nine speed auto transmissions, its gonna eventually happen. Its gonna be another 5-10 years but its coming.Chrysler has an 8-speed coming out soon.
On top of that, I believe ZF has already developed a 9 speed.
Looks like its sooner than I was thinking. The more they tighten up fleet fuel standards, transmission are going to continue to gain gears to keep RPMs in a lower more narrow range. So yeah, they will sound closer and closer to CVT boxes.
mad_machine wrote: so.. how soon till it becomes a popular car that Chrysler will kill to produce a mini-suv that everyone hates?
I'm personally waiting with baited breath for the crossover version.
I'm waiting for the SRT version. They aren't telling us anything...
Looks ok, like others said, it seems to be Ed Zachary the same design language, at least on the outside, as the Elantra/Focus/Forte/Civic/Cruze, which I guess should come as no surprise given theyre the older kids in the segment. 2.4t + 3 pedals and dual exhaust sounds like fun, but 6 speeds does not. Might be kinda-sorta-possibly exciting-ish, but Im not holding my breath. Glad to hear the build quality was a top concern, not an afterthought as many OEMs seem to treat it as these days.
Feedyurhed wrote:Drahthaar wrote: In reply to Donebrokeit: Not impressed. Where is the "Dart". It looks like a HondaMishiata .Exactly. Probably a very good car but it looks like everything else. A generic blob,
One could argue that the '60s Dart, next to the other compacts of the era, was "a generic shoebox." Other than the '62 and earlier Darts, the Dart styling was well executed but fairly similar to other cars in its market segment. Of all the A-bodies, the Barracuda was the only one that was meant to be an exercise in over the top styling. If anything, the answer to "Where's the Dart?" when it comes to styling is, "In its blending in with other compacts."
4cylndrfury wrote: 2.4t + 3 pedals and dual exhaust sounds like fun, but 6 speeds does not.
What am I missing here? 
6 speeds and a lack of torques = boring...
from US customers, to Fiat management...........
Good Luck...... hope it works, ANYTHING is better than where the penta folks have been the last decade
OK, how is this car a compact? 183 inches long is the same as my Legacy or a TSX. I think they rank compact based off of interior space or number of cupholders. Either way I can't consider a car this size a compact. I do like the lines though.
this whole thing with peopl being up in arms over the name "dart" reminds me of the BS that happened when they brought the Holden over to be the GTO.
It was a better car in EVERY way than the original.. but people still held it has being inferior
Grow up and get over it
^THIS. I am squarely in the demographic (26 y.o.) Dodge is aiming for with the new Dart. I had no idea what an original Dodge Dart was until someone else here enlightened me in an earlier new Dart post. The whole "this FWD grocery-getter is ruining the true Dart's good name" argument is a non-starter, esp. knowing that the original Dart was also a grocery-getter. If it doesn't faze me, it's not going to make a lick of difference among the normals. They're going to be more concerned about the Dodge part of the name than the Dart part of it.
Now that that's out of the way... the new Dart is pretty handsome. There's definitely some Mitsubishi in that front fascia. I like the interior as well. I wouldn't consider it to replace my Mazdaspeed3, but if Dodge makes an SRT-4 hatchback version, I might reconsider...
It would be fine if it was rear wheel drive; baring a major financial reversal (or a stroke), I've owned my last front driver. As was said above...
Where's the excitment?
I hear ya. I was surprised they used Dart as well. But not for the reasons some here have. I thought, what does dart "say"? I don't think Dart and think Mopar Muscle. I think little econobox (relative to the times) with uninspiring underpinning and a slant-6.
In this case, they didn't have any halo to aim for like with the Charger and Challenger. And like RexSeven said, folks in the demographic they are aiming it, the old Dart is off the radar. I'd rather it be RWD, but I'd like FWD to go away for ever as well.
You know, it's the only Dodge that's design wasn't based off of this:
But i'm so turned off by how round it is and how the rear lifts up so much. It doesn't remind me of a dart, and i personally think it's an insult to the classic Dart. If they wanted to call it a Neon or something, then i would just dislike it with no other feelings. But i feel they defiled the Dart name.
In reply to DrBoost:
I think of 340, 383 and the limited edtion, promise not to drive on the street, Hemi Dart. Don't forget the Duster clone Demon / Dart Sport.
Darts are quick and can be run with Mustangs and Camaros of the era on road courses.
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