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Raze
Raze SuperDork
5/24/12 12:00 p.m.

I think it might be the first in GA:

Before the sale:

After:

My take: Scion FRS, 6 speed, only upgrade was the touch screen stereo, otherwise it's as pure a drivers car as they come. I got to ride around for an hour this afternoon. It has a great note, not as raspy or harsh as say a Subaru 2.5 RS, very similar power delivery, tail happy even with the stability control on and sport mode off. Suspension is very taught but not harsh, actually has quite good road manners. It corners very flat, with only a tiny amount of body roll and we were cooking through the corners. The shifter moves less than 2 inches per throw, it's silly. Really it's quite an impressive car for the money. Outside it looks small, but not Miata small, but at the same time it's not bloated, it also has quite a bit of width to it (more than the NC). The styling is excellent from all angles, there aren't any boring or dull spots where you wishe'd they done more, it almost feels Italian and $$$ to look at. Also, the engine layout and packaging was thought out in advance with quite a bit of forethought to maintenance so everything is accessible. The only thing we noted was the lack of space for a turbo, though a battery relocate could fix that. Also, a supercharger would make a lot of functional space packaging sense on this car, I'm sure we'll see both as time goes on. The car also still has ride height to it, not goofy but it could take wider tires and be dropped some, but given how low it already is yet still functional (we went over speed bumps and speed tables with 3 people and never touched or rubbed) I wouldn't change a thing...

Inside the front seats are basically factory provided race seats with ridiculous amounts of bolster. The backseat is useless, we rode with 3 people, the person in the back seat just laid across, with the seats kinda pulled forward adult feet will not fit under the back of the seat they're that low. You can also tell the designers knew they were insurance seats so the back padding you can feel the stringers with barely any pressure. It's really more of a door accessway to the trunk, but when down, you have a ton of space, not quite Mazda 3 but quite a lot. Oh and the buttons (or lack thereof) and the engineering of the interior is simply amazing, it's like Toyota and Subaru had people who cared how well the car functioned AND looked. It's got nearly no buttons, but that doesn't mean it doesn't have all the features, cruise, A/C, power windows, locks, stability control, sport mode, etc. but you don't notice them in the car because the interior layout is so clean and neat. Everything is in the right spot and some of it is Toyota familiar, some Subaru familiar, but it all makes sense...

One more thing I forgot to mention, you can kinda see it in the pic, there's an emblem just forward of the A-pillar on the upper right corner of the front fender on both sides, the badge says, and I E36 M3 you not: 86

He'll be bringing it to Caffeine and Octane in 2 weeks...

Javelin
Javelin MegaDork
5/24/12 12:03 p.m.

I started by hating these cars but the more real people reviews I read the more I like them!

93EXCivic
93EXCivic UltimaDork
5/24/12 12:06 p.m.

Man I want to want one of those sooooo bad. But I just have so many things I would rather spend my money on then car payments. Maybe I will hit the lottery.

Matt B
Matt B Dork
5/24/12 12:06 p.m.

Think a 100lb German shepherd will fit in the back hatch with the seats folded down?

If so, maybe I can suggest this as our next car

Lesley
Lesley UberDork
5/24/12 12:16 p.m.

I just came from driving it on an event in Montreal, I'll second everything you've said. Very neutral car, it's not going to save your butt if you can't drive, or manhandle it. We had a professional drift champion there after the track portion, wow, could he toss that car around. I rode with him for a while, what a blast. I've always thought the sport was a bit stoopid, but he made it look like ballet... also he was a real car guy not one of those annoying JDM-yo baller dudes. I'd have preferred the shifter if it looked a little less like an upright swizzle stick.

Lesley
Lesley UberDork
5/24/12 12:17 p.m.
Matt B wrote: Think a 100lb German shepherd will fit in the back hatch with the seats folded down? If so, maybe I can suggest this as our next car

Well, they repeatedly said that it'll hold a set of track tires, a couple of helmets and a jack, so the dog should fit no problem. I wouldn't try to stuff him in there with the seats upright though, he'd probably bite you.

ProDarwin
ProDarwin SuperDork
5/24/12 12:23 p.m.
Matt B wrote: Think a 100lb German shepherd will fit in the back hatch with the seats folded down? If so, maybe I can suggest this as our next car

Can the dog be cut into several pieces?

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH UberDork
5/24/12 12:24 p.m.

So jelly

dculberson
dculberson Dork
5/24/12 12:27 p.m.

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac MegaDork
5/24/12 12:27 p.m.

Oh man this car sucks so bad. You can get the Hyundai and it's got 100 more horsepower!!!!!

Raze
Raze SuperDork
5/24/12 12:28 p.m.
GameboyRMH wrote: So jelly

That's what I said after I told him I was happy for him, hrmm I could sell my truck next year...

92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: Oh man this car sucks so bad. You can get the Hyundai and it's got 100 more horsepower!!!!!

Oddly enough he test drove a Genesis right before the Scion dealer called him and told him they were unloading this one off the trailer if he wanted to come check it out...

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH UberDork
5/24/12 12:31 p.m.

I'm gonna test drive one as soon as the local dealer gets them in stock. They don't need to know there's no way in hell I could afford one

scardeal
scardeal Dork
5/24/12 12:32 p.m.

I just want to know what this thing drives like with some proper tires...

Raze
Raze SuperDork
5/24/12 12:33 p.m.
scardeal wrote: I just want to know what this thing drives like with some proper tires...

Wheels and brakes are on his short list...

DaewooOfDeath
DaewooOfDeath Dork
5/24/12 12:44 p.m.

Man, I think I'm in love. My list of "finish graduate school and give self a present" cars just got more complicated.

ProDarwin
ProDarwin SuperDork
5/24/12 12:59 p.m.
scardeal wrote: I just want to know what this thing drives like with some proper tires...

I just want to know if A) It can be lowered without wrecking the front suspension geometry and B) if it will fit at least 17x9s. I think based on others measurements that 245s will be about the limit :(

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH UberDork
5/24/12 1:04 p.m.

It'll fit 9s on the rear but only up to 8.5 on the front. Dunno about the suspension geometry but it's McPs up front so you'll probably have to resort to the go-kart theory of suspension design...

Otto Maddox
Otto Maddox SuperDork
5/24/12 1:13 p.m.

Why do you guys want to immediately overwhelm the car with huge wheels and tires? Sure, it might be a tad undertired, but jeez.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH UberDork
5/24/12 1:18 p.m.

Overwhelm? As in too much grip? Does not compute!

mazdeuce
mazdeuce Reader
5/24/12 1:20 p.m.

I really want my wife to fall in love with this car. I can't have it because I always have a heard of children with me, but if she drove it to work, then I could "borrow" it on the weekend. Please please please please.

Feedyurhed
Feedyurhed Dork
5/24/12 1:21 p.m.

I love it. I don't need one but I may have to convince myself that somehow I do.

Raze
Raze SuperDork
5/24/12 1:26 p.m.
Otto Maddox wrote: Why do you guys want to immediately overwhelm the car with huge wheels and tires? Sure, it might be a tad undertired, but jeez.

Because Racecar?

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH UberDork
5/24/12 1:28 p.m.
Raze wrote:
Otto Maddox wrote: Why do you guys want to immediately overwhelm the car with huge wheels and tires? Sure, it might be a tad undertired, but jeez.
Because Racecar?

BECAUSE RACECAR

ProDarwin
ProDarwin SuperDork
5/24/12 1:32 p.m.

The STX limit (where I am still guessing it will land) is 9" Wide, 265mm.

Lesley
Lesley UberDork
5/24/12 1:38 p.m.

Here's a pic I took yesterday. It's 18.1" off the ground, so it's pretty low already.

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