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Flight Service
Flight Service MegaDork
7/27/16 3:58 p.m.

When adding a flare, which do you prefer.

The add on?

or the fender replacement?

These are examples of ad-on and replacement fenders, not the point of the question.

EDIT: Poser car changed for one that looked more similar to the other and to make people who see conversations about it go "What are they talking about???"

Brett_Murphy
Brett_Murphy PowerDork
7/27/16 4:03 p.m.

For off-road, the add on is better, especially if it is easily replaced.

The fender replacement will almost always look better.

Fitzauto
Fitzauto Dork
7/27/16 4:05 p.m.

Add-on for me.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner MegaDork
7/27/16 4:43 p.m.

For the track, add-on. Easy replacement after someone gets stupid.

Otherwise, it's fashion. Some people like the "cobbled together racecar" look. Some people like the "factory homologation special" look.

mad_machine
mad_machine MegaDork
7/27/16 4:50 p.m.

I like the looks of the red car.. but for all practical uses.. the green one is better as you can more easily replace them... but for god's sake, protect the oilcooler.. seeing them out in the open like that makes me cringe

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner MegaDork
7/27/16 4:55 p.m.
mad_machine wrote: I like the looks of the red car.. but for all practical uses.. the green one is better as you can more easily replace them... but for god's sake, protect the oilcooler.. seeing them out in the open like that makes me cringe

The green car is a poseur street car, the red car is a legit competition car. Seriously, that green car. Useless mirrors, stickers on the windows where they block visibility, a single fog light aimed 12" in front of the car - it's a cartoon.

java230
java230 Dork
7/27/16 5:00 p.m.

Red car is sexy, but I dont mind bolt one ones, but the huge ass ones on the green care are ugly. I prefer the smaller ones....

Flight Service
Flight Service MegaDork
7/27/16 5:23 p.m.

Ok, you all know those cars above are simply just embodiment of the question not the question in it's entirety?

Stefan (Not Bruce)
Stefan (Not Bruce) MegaDork
7/27/16 6:21 p.m.

Here's another example:

Porsche 924 with SCCA D-Prod bodywork:

Porsche 924 Carerra GTS (factory bolt on rear flare)

Porsche 944 (Euro market)

They are essentially the same chassis underneath.

stanger_missle
stanger_missle Dork
7/27/16 6:21 p.m.

Add-on all the way. Plus they only cost like $11.28. Less when they go on clearance in September

mad_machine
mad_machine MegaDork
7/27/16 6:56 p.m.
Keith Tanner wrote:
mad_machine wrote: I like the looks of the red car.. but for all practical uses.. the green one is better as you can more easily replace them... but for god's sake, protect the oilcooler.. seeing them out in the open like that makes me cringe
The green car is a poseur street car, the red car is a legit competition car. Seriously, that green car. Useless mirrors, stickers on the windows where they block visibility, a single fog light aimed 12" in front of the car - it's a cartoon.

I know it is a poseur car.. but at least it's flares unbolt if something should happen to them

novaderrik
novaderrik UltimaDork
7/27/16 9:49 p.m.

I bet that green car is a bad as race car dressed up like a poser car to surprise people..

And that truck with the swimming pool flares is the ultimate offroad machine disguised as a pos.

Huckleberry
Huckleberry MegaDork
7/27/16 10:08 p.m.

I went with add-on but only because $240 got it done.

*also... note the signage on the images. These guys show up at AER race weekends, take amazing photos and then give them away to the racers as part of their sponsorship or ... something. Whatever it is - they are berkeleying awesome.

Knurled
Knurled MegaDork
7/27/16 10:49 p.m.

Second image is not loading, but it sounds like box flares, which are both functional AND good looking, whereas the other kind of flare are so cheesy that they don't even have a name.

We used to have a box flares thread, but it got ruined by people posting without knowing what "box flare" means.

dean1484
dean1484 MegaDork
7/27/16 10:58 p.m.

What about flairs that don't close up to the body in the rear? Cool or?

Flight Service
Flight Service MegaDork
7/28/16 5:34 a.m.
Knurled wrote: Second image is not loading, but it sounds like box flares, which are both functional AND good looking, whereas the other kind of flare are so cheesy that they don't even have a name. We used to have a box flares thread, but it got ruined by people posting without knowing what "box flare" means.

Don't sink the thread by placing a titanic sized iceberg of a thread jack in the middle....

akylekoz
akylekoz Reader
7/28/16 5:52 a.m.

Open in back is to release the high pressure zone in the fender. I like it.

DeadSkunk
DeadSkunk UberDork
7/28/16 6:29 a.m.

I'll vote add-on normally, but I've seen some really nice integrated flares over the years. It depends on what car and the look you're trying to achieve. I could use some Challenge friendly add-ons.

STM317
STM317 Reader
7/28/16 6:46 a.m.

I don't care for exposed hardware on flares. Other than that I have no problem with either option

captdownshift
captdownshift UberDork
7/28/16 6:54 a.m.

In reply to stanger_missle:

Not plastic dipping the pool before riveting it on is just plain lazy.

Andy Neuman
Andy Neuman HalfDork
7/28/16 7:53 a.m.
DeadSkunk wrote: I'll vote add-on normally, but I've seen some really nice integrated flares over the years. It depends on what car and the look you're trying to achieve. I could use some Challenge friendly add-ons.

The cheapest set of 4 I could find last year was $127 I believe on eBay.

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
7/28/16 8:00 a.m.
Keith Tanner wrote: For the track, add-on. Easy replacement after someone gets stupid. Otherwise, it's fashion. Some people like the "cobbled together racecar" look. Some people like the "factory homologation special" look.

And sometimes they are both.

People love the look of the Alfa GTAm, but when replicas are made- it's common to see the flare gently put into the fender, nice and smooth. But the real GTAms were clearly just riveted on. You can count and measure them.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH MegaDork
7/28/16 8:06 a.m.
stanger_missle wrote: Add-on all the way. Plus they only cost like $11.28. Less when they go on clearance in September

I think I'm gonna copy these on my Samurai. I can even import them for cheap, it's a kids' pool, not a car part

mad_machine
mad_machine MegaDork
7/28/16 9:45 a.m.
dean1484 wrote: What about flairs that don't close up to the body in the rear? Cool or?

should probably also have some sort of vent in the trailing edge of the front fender too

DuctTape&Bondo
DuctTape&Bondo Dork
7/28/16 11:11 a.m.

First car looks like crap. 2nd one is awesome. Removing the green poser car was a dirty trick I was confused as hell and thought I went colorblind.

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