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David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
12/24/22 11:26 a.m.

Everyone doing okay through the cold? I woke up with the dog crammed next to me. (My wife was out for a run.)

When we first bought the M3, my wife goes, I wish it had heated seats. 

She's a fan of them.

I looked down at the console and said, Oh, look, it does. 

Swish. 

dps214
dps214 Dork
12/24/22 11:48 a.m.

I recently gave in to becoming an SUV owner. Figured if I'm doing it I'm doing it right - high trim with basically every reasonable creature comfort. I actually was specifically seeking out a heated steering wheel because my hands have weak circulation. I've never been a big fan of heated seats but they've really grown on me in the past week. Especially for having a garage, I figured I'd never actually use remote start, but I'm pretty sure I've already gotten my money's worth out of that feature just in the last few days.

ProDarwin
ProDarwin MegaDork
12/24/22 12:01 p.m.

I have now owned 1 car with heated seats.  I never use them. :shrug:

I do like turbos though.

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
12/24/22 12:03 p.m.

I miss my Golf.  300+ horsepower means nothing when the thing weighs 4000lb and feels like once you start sliding it will be unrecoverable.

 

2200lb had me able to go 90mph over roads more comfortably than the volvo does 50.

 

I have absolutely no idea how people can voluntarily drive SUVs in the winter.

AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter)
AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
12/24/22 12:05 p.m.

I feel about heated seats the way Buddy the Elf feels about smiling.

Trent
Trent PowerDork
12/24/22 12:06 p.m.

Heated seats are the best seats. 

Such a simple premise, invisible, adds only a few grams of weight to any car but increases the comfort and usability so much.

A vintage roadster should not be without them.

 

But on that note. Does anyone know of a high quality aftermarket set? The Amazon/ebay stuff doesn't get particularly warm and takes a while to heat up. I'm looking for OEM BMW levels of roasting your bum that can be bought as a kit.

Peabody
Peabody MegaDork
12/24/22 12:11 p.m.
ProDarwin said:

I have now owned 1 car with heated seats.  I never use them. :shrug:

I do like turbos though.

I have a car with both.

I use one a lot more than the other

CrustyRedXpress
CrustyRedXpress Dork
12/24/22 12:18 p.m.

What is the rule of thumb for HP vs. ambient temperature?

I always heard you gained 1% hp for every 10 degrees cooler temp on a NA engine.

Temps here are in the 90's in the summer, and it's 40 degrees outside right now. That's 50 degrees or 5%. My engine is rated at 270hp so it's about a 14hp swing. 

Better go out and drive!

 

DeadSkunk  (Warren)
DeadSkunk (Warren) UltimaDork
12/24/22 12:31 p.m.

My Canyon is my first vehicle with heated seats. I like them, but the really nice feature of the option package is the heated steering wheel. It's so nice for my arthritic hands.

WonkoTheSane
WonkoTheSane UltraDork
12/24/22 12:45 p.m.
Trent said:

Heated seats are the best seats. 

Such a simple premise, invisible, adds only a few grams of weight to any car but increases the comfort and usability so much.

A vintage roadster should not be without them.

 

But on that note. Does anyone know of a high quality aftermarket set? The Amazon/ebay stuff doesn't get particularly warm and takes a while to heat up. I'm looking for OEM BMW levels of roasting your bum that can be bought as a kit.

I've installed heatedseatkit.com's set into two vehicles and have been very happy with them.   Note that their site is straight outta 2005, but they're responsive if you have a question via email or phone.  It's just a little outfit out of Cali.

Karacticus
Karacticus SuperDork
12/24/22 1:02 p.m.

Gotta admit I'm feeling quite the baller in the X5 with heated and cooled massaging seats and heated steering wheel.  
 

When it was 10 below Thursday evening, it was even pre-heated from shore power before I got in.  About the only thing that could have improved the experience in those conditions was a valet to meet me with the car at the door. 

Jesse Ransom
Jesse Ransom UltimaDork
12/24/22 1:10 p.m.

I'm not going anywhere til it finishes rinsing the roads. We got ice followed by freezing rain now switching to rain. Accompanying the dog out to the yard is hazardous for all. The street is polished ice with running water on top.

Looking forward to leaving the house, it does remind me how awesome it was to be able to preheat the Leaf from my phone, along with the heated seats and steering wheel.

wae
wae PowerDork
12/24/22 1:19 p.m.

Now that the fuel isn't gelled up anymore, der Scheißwagen is a treat.  Heated seats are nice and all but the real money is the heated steering wheel!  And there must have been some magic in that old traction control system they found.  The Mazda 5's is pretty good at modulating the throttle on my behalf, but the Merc's works so smoothly!  It won't really let me work it in to a slide but even when I do manage to get it over its skis a little, it just whips it right back in line immediately.

racerfink
racerfink UberDork
12/24/22 2:28 p.m.

My mom has given me tons of great advice over the years.  The one about 'picking my parents very carefully', and 'never live in a town big enough to have a Wally World Mart' stand out the most.  The one that pertains to this thread is 'don't live far enough North that the bridges say "May ice in cold weather"'.

Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter)
Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter) PowerDork
12/24/22 2:32 p.m.
DeadSkunk (Warren) said:

My Canyon is my first vehicle with heated seats. I like them, but the really nice feature of the option package is the heated steering wheel. It's so nice for my arthritic hands.

Yep. The Fusion's steering wheel gets so hot you can barely touch it. It's awesome. My hands are much more likely to be cold than my backside, which has ample insulation.

But the true luxury is cooled seats. Don't know if I will ever go back from those.

californiamilleghia
californiamilleghia UltraDork
12/24/22 2:54 p.m.
Trent said:

But on that note. Does anyone know of a high quality aftermarket set? The Amazon/ebay stuff doesn't get particularly warm and takes a while to heat up. I'm looking for OEM BMW levels of roasting your bum that can be bought as a kit.

Are there any common junkyard cars that are worth taking the heated seat panels out of ?

and the  switch :)

these would probably be better than the cheap Chinese ones.....

AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter)
AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
12/24/22 3:09 p.m.
californiamilleghia said:
Trent said:

But on that note. Does anyone know of a high quality aftermarket set? The Amazon/ebay stuff doesn't get particularly warm and takes a while to heat up. I'm looking for OEM BMW levels of roasting your bum that can be bought as a kit.

Are there any common junkyard cars that are worth taking the heated seat panels out of ?

and the  switch :)

these would probably be better than the cheap Chinese ones.....

This would be my approach. Buy a set of OE heated seats and gut them.

AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter)
AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
12/24/22 3:10 p.m.
DeadSkunk (Warren) said:

My Canyon is my first vehicle with heated seats. I like them, but the really nice feature of the option package is the heated steering wheel. It's so nice for my arthritic hands.

2 things. First, it's great to be quoting current posts from DeadSkunk. Second, heated steering wheels are fantastic here in the winter land.

Duke
Duke MegaDork
12/24/22 3:26 p.m.

In reply to David S. Wallens :

E46 seat heaters will roast your ass, too.

I used to think heated seats were a peripheral luxury.

Now heated seats and steering wheel are necessities.

 

Slippery
Slippery PowerDork
12/24/22 3:41 p.m.
Trent said:

Heated seats are the best seats. 

But on that note. Does anyone know of a high quality aftermarket set? The Amazon/ebay stuff doesn't get particularly warm and takes a while to heat up. I'm looking for OEM BMW levels of roasting your bum that can be bought as a kit.

You can buy e39 heat pads new from the dealer. 



This is what it looks like:

docwyte
docwyte PowerDork
12/24/22 7:04 p.m.

I love the heated seats AND steering wheel in our SUV's.  Heated steering wheels are the bomb

outasite
outasite HalfDork
12/24/22 7:34 p.m.

After experiencing heated seat in our CX5 I will install them in the Tacoma. -50 windchill yesterday and -30 windchill today in the Northland.

GTwannaB
GTwannaB Dork
12/24/22 8:16 p.m.

My 18 year old Subaru warms up and produces heat in about three minutes flat. I don't have a yearning for heated seats today. But a RAV4 rental that produced zero heat for 20 minutes was torture. Do direct injection motors warm up more slowly by design? I would want heated seats in my next family hauler. 

11GTCS
11GTCS Dork
12/24/22 10:21 p.m.

The ‘17 Explorer we picked up in 2020 has a heated steering wheel, heated and cooled front seats and heated back seats... laugh   It was 13 F heading out to Christmas Eve Mass and we used all of the things.  The new company sled (‘22 Trailblazer) just got its second oil change and the “chips” for the heated seats finally arrived and got installed.  It’s an awesome world we live in.  LOL.  

nlevine
nlevine Reader
12/25/22 1:43 a.m.

One of the things that swayed me to the "Adventure"-grade RAV4 was the heated steering wheel/heated and cooled seats combo. My kid's bummed that it doesn't have heated rear seats like my Durango did...

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