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Xceler8x
Xceler8x UltraDork
7/24/13 1:14 p.m.

The Caterham 620R now with 310 hp via a Ford Duratec engine. 1200 lbs. Sequential six speed. 155 mph top speed.

PHeller
PHeller UberDork
7/24/13 1:17 p.m.

How can I get that engine into my Miata?

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
7/24/13 1:18 p.m.
PHeller wrote: How can I get that engine into my Miata?

Probably easier than you'd expect.... Ford/Mercury did some testing of a 3.7 V6 NB. I bet there's at least some important similarities between the motors.

z31maniac
z31maniac PowerDork
7/24/13 1:50 p.m.
Swank Force One wrote:
PHeller wrote: How can I get that engine into my Miata?
Probably easier than you'd expect.... Ford/Mercury did some testing of a 3.7 V6 NB. I bet there's at least some important similarities between the motors.

Judging by the picture, the intake and exhaust flow through the head is reversed vs stock NA/NB Miata.

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
7/24/13 1:59 p.m.
z31maniac wrote:
Swank Force One wrote:
PHeller wrote: How can I get that engine into my Miata?
Probably easier than you'd expect.... Ford/Mercury did some testing of a 3.7 V6 NB. I bet there's at least some important similarities between the motors.
Judging by the picture, the intake and exhaust flow through the head is reversed vs stock NA/NB Miata.

Which does present some issues... but there is a crazy turbo MZR drift NB running around.

600whp sounds fun.

RossD
RossD PowerDork
7/24/13 2:05 p.m.
Swank Force One wrote:
PHeller wrote: How can I get that engine into my Miata?
Probably easier than you'd expect.... Ford/Mercury did some testing of a 3.7 V6 NB. I bet there's at least some important similarities between the motors.

What are you on about? It's a 2.0 liter and is the same basic engine that is in the NC. Of course, it's a supercharged and a Ford version but... you could bolt on a mazda valve cover...

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
7/24/13 2:06 p.m.
RossD wrote:
Swank Force One wrote:
PHeller wrote: How can I get that engine into my Miata?
Probably easier than you'd expect.... Ford/Mercury did some testing of a 3.7 V6 NB. I bet there's at least some important similarities between the motors.
What are you on about? It's a 2.0 liter that is in the NC. Of course, it's a supercharged and a Ford version but... you could bolt on a mazda valve cover...

Sorry.... i was thinking V6 duratec at first. Typed before putting brain in gear.

The 600whp NB i referenced had the 4cylinder, though.

Kenny_McCormic
Kenny_McCormic SuperDork
7/24/13 2:12 p.m.

Wow, I thought the R500 was good enough.

kb58
kb58 HalfDork
7/24/13 3:20 p.m.
Xceler8x wrote: The Caterham 620R now with 310 hp via a Ford Duratec engine. 1200 lbs. Sequential six speed. 155 mph top speed.

Is that 1200 lbs a hard number? Reason I ask is that it wasn't listed in previous releases. Some people suspect that the "620" is actually the weight in kgs, which would be 1364 lbs.

Racer1ab
Racer1ab HalfDork
7/24/13 3:21 p.m.

I know what I'm ordering if I hit the Powerball...

mad_machine
mad_machine MegaDork
7/24/13 4:35 p.m.

I would not want to do 155 in a 7. The buffeting would be like having your head torn off.. slowly

iceracer
iceracer UberDork
7/24/13 4:37 p.m.
PHeller wrote: How can I get that engine into my Miata?

Buy a Caterham and switch. QED

carguy123
carguy123 UltimaDork
7/24/13 5:25 p.m.

That beautiful body? I like Caterhams, Locosts, etc, but beautiful body they're not.

I like them for what they can do and how they perform and am glad I'm in the drivers seat so I don't have to look at it.,

poopshovel
poopshovel MegaDork
7/24/13 6:06 p.m.

Body? What body? That log with shoulders?

Meh.

ditchdigger
ditchdigger SuperDork
7/24/13 6:18 p.m.
poopshovel wrote: Body? What body? That log with shoulders? Meh.

Still more attractive than any exocar.

mistanfo
mistanfo SuperDork
7/24/13 6:27 p.m.

Do want.

poopshovel
poopshovel MegaDork
7/24/13 7:07 p.m.
ditchdigger wrote:
poopshovel wrote: Body? What body? That log with shoulders? Meh.
Still more attractive than any exocar.

Still less attractive and less functional than a Festiva with the same powerplant, with probably the same cost in the build as buying used Z06.

poopshovel
poopshovel MegaDork
7/24/13 7:11 p.m.

novaderrik
novaderrik UberDork
7/24/13 7:16 p.m.

looks like the car that Peter Griffin tried driving thru the tunnel...

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner MegaDork
7/24/13 8:21 p.m.
kb58 wrote:
Xceler8x wrote: The Caterham 620R now with 310 hp via a Ford Duratec engine. 1200 lbs. Sequential six speed. 155 mph top speed.
Is that 1200 lbs a hard number? Reason I ask is that it wasn't listed in previous releases. Some people suspect that the "620" is actually the weight in kgs, which would be 1364 lbs.

Usually, the number refers to hp per tonne in a Caterham model. 310 hp implies 1000 lbs. But the press release doesn't actually say anything about that, does it?

I'm not sure I'd want this engine. I've never found the character of the MZR/Duratec to be terribly compelling compared to some other options. Unfortunately, it's the only engine offered by Caterham in the US these days. I wonder how that 1.6 Sigma in the UK feels?

93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
7/25/13 7:10 a.m.
poopshovel wrote:
ditchdigger wrote:
poopshovel wrote: Body? What body? That log with shoulders? Meh.
Still more attractive than any exocar.
Still less attractive and less functional than a Festiva with the same powerplant, with probably the same cost in the build as buying used Z06.

Try a new Z06. I would rather have the Caterham any day though.

sethmeister4
sethmeister4 HalfDork
7/25/13 8:22 a.m.

Cool, yes. Beautiful, no. Do I still want one? For sure!

Basil Exposition
Basil Exposition HalfDork
7/25/13 11:23 a.m.

If you'd said 0-bitch in your title, you'd have my best friend's ex-wife.

Xceler8x
Xceler8x UltraDork
7/25/13 12:34 p.m.
kb58 wrote: Is that 1200 lbs a hard number? Reason I ask is that it wasn't listed in previous releases. Some people suspect that the "620" is actually the weight in kgs, which would be 1364 lbs.

I pulled the 545kg listed weight from the press release. I then converted it to lbs using google conversions. I suck at teh maht.

pinchvalve
pinchvalve UltimaDork
7/25/13 12:37 p.m.

Bucket list car to drive in anger with sticky tires.

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