Spec Rallycross class?

WOR has actually had a series of POS class cars. I remember 10+ years ago there were two, one was like a ranger or an S10 or something and the other was... maybe a Camry? I'm not sure how big a region would have to be to need three cars in the class, but I do like the idea of having a couple identically prepared cars for the purpose.

And yeah, apart from one weird guy around here with a 323 GTX, I haven't seen 323s on the road in YEARS. My vote, purely for durability and availability reasons would be Subaru Legacy Outbacks!

10+ is before my time I heard something about a Celica or maybe it was a Supra, and also a well-rusted RX-7 that one of the site owners had.

RWD is more fun than FWD or AWD!!!!

Aeromoto wrote: RWD is more fun than FWD or AWD!!!!

true x 11tybillion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I definitely vote for RWD small truck class

In reply to aussiesmg:

You joke, but a RWD small pickup was definitely one of the Western Ohio Region's rallycross "rentals." It was not in good shape and I think it was an auto, so I imagine yours will be faster.

Regarding the FWD/RWD/AWD question and the Piece of E36 M3 class car. One this you're probably going to want to do to keep costs down is go with a pretty cheap tire, on cheap tires with minimal setup a lot of RWD cars might not have enough grip to really be interesting. Seriously, you can have so little grip that you spend the whole run doing 15 mph with the inside rear tire spinning and it's not that much fun. Obviously this is highly dependent on the car (LSD and IRS would go a long way, the truck I drove had neither), the tires, and the race surface.

With an AWD car you'll at least have the grip to get up to interesting speeds and you won't have to spend money doing things to get more traction.

Also, I think FWD rallying can be a lot of fun, but you do have to learn how to do it right. Which I never have.

I was thinking the FWD BG chassis 323's which certainly wouldn't be an expensive starting point and 90% of them that you find are stock. VW golfs are a possibility, but parts cost a touch more and they can be harder to find stock, same with E30's, which also come in too many different drivetrain setups. RWD would be fun but would definitely need a limited slip and more power to make it extra fun.

The BG chassis 323's are simple, cheap and easy to work on, share bits with escorts, proteges and some components with miatas, so parts are cheap and plentiful, and every car sold in the states was a 1.6 B6 motor and the manual F series trans never changed gear ratios during it's 4 year production. The simplicity is what had me thinking that platform as ZX3 focuses aren't quite cheap enough as of yet.

I will say with the protégé chassis I've been having good luck with the BJ chassis so far, and as long as you want to stay around stock levels with the engine/trans you will be ok and there are plenty of them in junk yards and lots of parts swap within most 00's mazdas.

Knurled wrote: WOR has/had a rental car. $20 to rent it plus entry fee........ ....A lot of people have "graduated" to their own cars, .....

Word. One lap in the rental & I was already thinking craigslist...

After today's events, I will have to amend my earlier statement regarding 2.5RS Subaru.

A 2.5RS in stock form is INCREDIBLY SILLY FUN TO DRIVE. I borrowed another car (really, I showed up to help out and the car's owner told me that I was driving his car) and I couldn't stop laughing the whole day. It's not straight line fast but you can play with the steering and the brakes and finesse the car to go exactly where you want it to, so you're driving a line all the time instead of trying to manhandle a car around avoiding cones.

captdownshift wrote: I was thinking the FWD BG chassis 323's which certainly wouldn't be an expensive starting point and 90% of them that you find are stock. VW golfs are a possibility, but parts cost a touch more and they can be harder to find stock, same with E30's, which also come in too many different drivetrain setups.

Very hard to find in much of the country, though. I can't remember the last time I saw a '91-96 Escort let alone a 323.

The ZX2, I think, is a much better starting point. The chassis is better (stiffer/stronger), the engine isn't as sucktastic, the rear suspension is far better than the weaksauce junk in the Mazda version of the shell, and you can still find '01-03 models really cheap. When I was looking for a replacement car, I was thinking $500 ZX2 and I had to narrow my choices down by color to get a manageable figure. Apparently something in the automatic lets go frequently and it's not an expensive repair if you're not afraid to play in Mercon.