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Brett_Murphy
Brett_Murphy PowerDork
10/21/16 12:24 p.m.
Robbie wrote: But seriously, you will spend less time unbolting the driveshaft than you will mucking about trying to tow a car backwards.

This. Plus, the driveshaft has to come out anyway to do the Guibo, so you're getting ahead in the project before you even get it home.

petegossett
petegossett UltimaDork
10/21/16 1:55 p.m.

In reply to Brett_Murphy:

The problem is twofold though: 1st as I understand the exhaust has to come out before the driveshaft. That won't happen without a minimum of frequent repeated dousing with a penetrant of some type, or more than likely a sawzall; and 2nd all my tools and garage are 840-miles away.

Jumper K. Balls
Jumper K. Balls UberDork
10/21/16 2:11 p.m.

An unladen U-Haul dolly is not just a little annoying. It is a banging, crashing, raise the dead type racket that will have people coming out of their houses a quarter of a mile away to find out what kind of constant vehicular accident is going on.

I once decided to save the $75 and grabbed an "in town rental" dolly and drove it 150 miles empty to pick up a car. I would have paid twice that to not have to hear it. The seller was waiting for me outside and told me he heard me coming 5 minutes before I got there.

Robbie
Robbie UltraDork
10/21/16 2:12 p.m.

There's real merit to uship...

But if you must tow dolly I would just put it in neutral. I have heard a lot of this 'transmission need the input shaft spinning to lubricate' business but I'm not sure what is fear mongering (or manufacturer liability defense) and what isn't.

With a manual trans, I thought that most lubrication was done via the bottoms of the output shaft gears being submerged in oil. As those gears turn (and they are all connected to the output shaft, so they will turn), they whip oil around to everything else. Keep in mind that while in neutral even though the input shaft is not spinning, all the gears are constant mesh, so they should all still be spinning, just none are connected to the input shaft. So plenty of oil will still be whipping around, and even getting on the input shaft itself as it sits idle inside the rotating and oiled gears on the input shaft.

Now, with an auto, there ARE fluid pumps running off the converter or input or whatever, so I can understand. but the RV guys who flat tow are instructed to just idle the car for 5 minutes every 8 hours of driving or something and that is enough to keep the transmission lubed.

Keep in mind you are also not loading the transmission at all, so even with minimal lube there should be very little heat created.

Wall-e
Wall-e MegaDork
10/21/16 4:00 p.m.

Rent two dollies and put one under each end?

SVreX
SVreX MegaDork
10/21/16 4:29 p.m.

Uship will not necessarily ship for $.45 per mile.

I spent the last 2 weeks trying to get a decent quote from Uship, and the best I could get was more like $.90 for a run that is nearly 900 miles.

It's not as simple as a cost per mile. It has to to with where the start and end points are in relation to common trucking routes.

Oh, and how hungry they are...

JohnRW1621
JohnRW1621 MegaDork
10/21/16 5:33 p.m.

I had a car arrive here yesterday from Jacksonville for 45 cents.

I posted the trip at 10am and by 10pm a shipper had accepted the trip. It was then one week later that he actually picked it up. 1.5 days later it arrived here.

I did the "name your own price" version. I like this way because it seems to take out some of the pricing games. What I am saying to the shipper is, "the load is ready and here is the price if you're in the area or passing through."
He delivered a Jeep (someone's eBay purchase) from Eastern KY to Atlantic Beach, FL which was only 7 miles away from my pickup point.

SVreX
SVreX MegaDork
10/21/16 5:56 p.m.

In reply to JohnRW1621:

Yep. That's exactly what I did.

Got quick responses from several shippers, but all of their prices were closer to $1.00. Bottom line for me, For $985 shipping costs, I will make a weekend run.

SVreX
SVreX MegaDork
10/21/16 5:58 p.m.

...Plus, I wasn't asking for a delivery to a place off the beaten path (like my house). I was asking for delivery to an address 2 blocks off of I-75, in Macon, GA.

I'm glad you have done well with it, but so far no good for me.

JohnRW1621
JohnRW1621 MegaDork
10/21/16 6:17 p.m.

In reply to SVreX,

Email my guy directly rose3177@gmail.com
OR contact him via UShip

I told him I would try to send him some business anyway.

SVreX
SVreX MegaDork
10/21/16 6:26 p.m.

I'll try, but I am probably hitting the road tomorrow.

JohnRW1621
JohnRW1621 MegaDork
10/21/16 6:35 p.m.
SVreX wrote: I'll try, but I am probably hitting the road tomorrow.

Then, calling might be quicker... 440.474.3629 Kevin

BrokenYugo
BrokenYugo UltimaDork
10/21/16 7:00 p.m.
Robbie wrote: With a manual trans, I thought that most lubrication was done via the bottoms of the output shaft gears being submerged in oil. As those gears turn (and they are all connected to the output shaft, so they will turn), they whip oil around to everything else. Keep in mind that while in neutral even though the input shaft is not spinning, all the gears are constant mesh, so they should all still be spinning, just none are connected to the input shaft. So plenty of oil will still be whipping around, and even getting on the input shaft itself as it sits idle inside the rotating and oiled gears on the input shaft.

In neutral spinning most RWD transmissions through the output will only spin the output shaft, the gears won't turn (bearing drag aside) since they all just spin on the output shaft when you're in neutral. That said it would still probably be fine for an hour or more since nothing is loaded (the oil only needs to lubricate, not cool anything).

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