Car size perspective in pictures

Also, it runs a Winston Cup Buick 4.5 liter V-6 that puts down 450 hp.  Effing rowdy machine!!  Absolute unit of a car and driver!

KyAllroad said:

Also, it runs a Winston Cup Buick 4.5 liter V-6 that puts down 450 hp.  Effing rowdy machine!!  Absolute unit of a car and driver!

Busch Grand National.  Winston Cup was the top class with the V8s.

The Buick Grand National got its name for a reason

Dwarfed by modern econoboxes...

KyAllroad said:

Also, it runs a Winston Cup Buick 4.5 liter V-6 that puts down 450 hp.  Effing rowdy machine!!  Absolute unit of a car and driver!

This car didn't come from NeOhio by any chance? There used to be an EMod Buick powered Europa out here, wonder if it's the same car.

Also, evidence of human inside Europa:

No clue how tall he is, but he looks pretty jammed on there

In reply to KyAllroad :

I'm 5'6", but it seemed like getting in/out of the Europa was at least slightly more graceful than it was in my C4 Vette. 

In reply to Pete Gossett (Forum Supporter) :

I'm 5'9" and maybe a little heavier than I should be at 200 lbs.  I found our C4 to be perfectly easy.  My NA Miata is more challenging.

The Europa was just ridiculous.  Like a 3/4 scale car.

I'm 5-10 and drove an S2 Europa at an autocross back in 1972, with a helmet.  It was tight, but it really happened, It had slicks, so it was an amazing experience back in the day.

There was a teacher at my high school who bought a new Europa back in 1973.  I'm from a small rural farming community in the Midwest where people drove Chevy Impalas or pickup trucks so he may as well have bought a spaceship, no one there had ever seen anything like it.  He was only about 5'-7" so he fit in it okay.

By contrast, many don't realize just how big WWII Jeeps were.  Their size and the sheer number Honda was able to produce, despite the gasoline shortages of the 1920s and being outnumbered nearly 100 to 1, explains why the Spanish were able to easily defeat the Roman Hordes during the Clone War of 1812.

Picture unrelated.

Apis Mellifera said:

By contrast, many don't realize just how big WWII Jeeps were.  Their size and the sheer number Honda was able to produce, despite the gasoline shortages of the 1920s and being outnumbered nearly 100 to 1, explains why the Spanish were able to easily defeat the Roman Hordes during the Clone War of 1812.

ChatGPT level response!  Well done! :P

Had a picture but can't find it now.

Did a short trip with the Classic Car Adventures folks.

I took a 1956 Continental MkII. Another guy I know drove his Mini (allies, not axis).

I made a point to find his car in the lot and park next to it. 

You could probably fit two Minis in the same spot.

On my way to pick up a bike last week I stopped at the bank and parked the Spark on the road. Pulling an 8' trailer with an extended tongue I was able to just fit inside those white painted lines on the road that indicate a parking space. I wish I'd taken a picture. 

This was grid at an SVRA race at Hutchinson Island.  My "little" Fox SVO looms large over the other cars in my group. And, keeping with the Europa thread, there is one in this picture beside my car.  BTW, the guy wasn't a particularly friendly driver, most aggressive blocker I have ever raced against.

I know it became a meme but that is the original shot.

I think I'd have to wear a helmet if I was driving anything smaller/older than a NA Miata in modern traffic. 

Would love to have an MG A, but would be terrified to take it out for a drive.

CrustyRedXpress said:

I think I'd have to wear a helmet if I was driving anything smaller/older than a NA Miata in modern traffic. 

Would love to have an MG A, but would be terrified to take it out for a drive.

I hear you, I want to wear a helmet every time I drive to the big city of Minneapolis in our Minivan.

I had a friend who owned a MG Midget and lost control on a gravel road and it did a soft roll over onto it's top on the sloped road ditch. The windshield collapsed but he was unharmed because he luckily just laid down onto the passengers seat but was trapped inside the passenger compartment. To get out, he merely pushed up and rolled the car off of himself.

Pete. (l33t FS) said:

codrus (Forum Supporter) said:

Want to make a McLaren look huge?  Park an FD next to it.

FDs made FCs look big!

Park an FD next to an SA, though...

Not quite an SA, but close enough:

Mine is the one in the middle. The first gen definitely doesn't make an FD look big. 

In reply to Powar :

FD's are such good looking cars.  Thanks for sharing.

Powar said:

Pete. (l33t FS) said:

codrus (Forum Supporter) said:

Want to make a McLaren look huge?  Park an FD next to it.

FDs made FCs look big!

Park an FD next to an SA, though...

Not quite an SA, but close enough:

Mine is the one in the middle. The first gen definitely doesn't make an FD look big. 

Indeed. It looks "right", like you can really see the family resemblance.

More fun is to compare the rears.  They both have the same kind of rear deck treatment where the greenhouse tapers.

C5 vs FD RX7 from the internet

I snapped a picture today of my 325iX parked next to a Land Rover Discovery.

Here's another Yuropa photo:

Somewhere I have a photo of it beside an Elise and it makes the Elise look big. 

In reply to VolvoHeretic :

Interesting about the FD: Apparently they have a pretty annoying limitation up front due to the upper rail on the chassis tub.  You can make the car low or you can have big wheels but you can't make the car low on big wheels.  (That FD looks like it's about bottomed out tire wise)

Not a major problem in 1992 (although I guess the JGTC racers had issues) but today?  Where do you get sticky 25" outside diameter rubber in 2024 that's more than 205 cross section?  It'd need to be 16" or maaaaybe a super low profile 17".

The C5, of course, has nothing over the front wheels but fender, due to its body on tubular frame construction.