East coast gas shortage

I'm fairly confident I have enough gas in the car for a trip and back from Walmart to stock up on toilet paper....

Appleseed said:

Duke said:

93 octane is pushing $3.89 / gallon here in the Midatlantic, but I haven't seen any evidence of shortages or panic buying.

 

You sad bastards have reached northern Illinois premium prices.  

$3.89 is what the cheapest regular at ARCO is around here , and has been right around $4 for weeks......

Topped off my daily driver last night.  It was probably the only car in the fleet below three quarters of a tank. We don't drive a lot lately, so things should be back to what passes for normal by the time we need gas again.

John Welsh said:

Hedge your bets, be prepared, buy a Nissan Leaf

Glad I'm not the only one who sees the irony in buying a SUV to replace my electric car the day before a massive gas crisis. Oh well; I made my bed, so now it's time to lie in it.

We have about a 10 mile range in our old plug in Prius so I told The Wife to make sure she had it charged up and to use that for our errands.  Electricity is cheap here, gas is not.

In reply to Tom Suddard :

It's ok, we can keep recharging the Clarity and coasting on the 7-miles-of-range-worth of gas that's been sitting in the tank for... I don't even remember how long.

No sign of a shortage here on the SC coast. I filled up my trucklet this morning, told my guys to fill up their trucks, and had my admin fill up the spare truck just in case. We should be good through the end of the week. 

Thankfully I have the Yaris, which never fails to get 35+mpg, and a 3-mile commute.

Glad I filled up Monday at 6:30 AM, and the office is still under work from home orders.(400 miles a week saved).

Edit, not sure what the prices are today, went to check Gas buddy, and its failing. Heavy demand ???

I have to drop off my son at school tomorrow, but aside from that I don't really need to leave the house for around a week.... so its not that much different than the past year lol.

Went up about $.30 here over the last time I noticed pricing. Gonna fill up the cars so I can go a few weeks if E36 M3 hits the fan. 

I was going to drain the over winter gasoline out of the boat and put it to use in something. Seems like I'd better let that sit another week or so.

ProDarwin said:

I have to drop off my son at school tomorrow, but aside from that I don't really need to leave the house for around a week.... so its not that much different than the past year lol.

No little ones, but pretty much the only time we need to leave is to stock up on adult beverages or to go to a show.

I'm really curious about how Windows ransomware made its way to pipeline control systems and why they didn't have replacement systems restored from backups in a matter of hours, it seems they must be doing a large number of things seriously wrong for this to even be possible.

I've got maybe a 3/4 tank of gas in the van and I hardly need to drive anywhere, but then this comes on top of the Line 5 pipeline being shut down before it turns one or more of the great lakes into the Niger Delta.

In reply to GameboyRMH :

This is mind boggling to me as well. I would think it would be as easy as dumping the HD and restoring it. 

Or worst case, pull out the spare computer and plug it in. 

In reply to GameboyRMH :

I wonder if they tried turning it off and back on?

AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) said:

In reply to GameboyRMH :

I wonder if they tried turning it off and back on?

This! 

Yep, at the fairly small place I worked in 2019 we had a spare firewall, spare PBX, spare network switch, and backup server VMs all ready to go if something failed. When all the network file shares got ransomware'd by an exec who demanded full access to all of it but didn't think before opening a fishy email, everything was back to normal the next morning and only a few machines had actually been infected, none of them servers.

When the server at a little office I do IT for now had a server's single proprietary PSU fail, I had it back up on a desktop computer before the end of the day and had it virtualized on a generic-hardware Linux host by the end of the week. But an oil pipeline is less secure and worse-prepared than either of them?

Hard drive.... you hitting on me son?

Seriously, I would suspect it's the result of a lot of old school "oil industry" thinking / processes.   

Welcome to the new world guys!

A "let me run some lotion on your roughneck until I drain your pipeline" email got opened 

What really went up yesterday?  My brother's marketability.  He just got out of the USAF with extensive cybersecurity training.  Already has six figure offers to start . . . with the expectation he'll be working from home.  I think maybe I'll have him sign me as an agent for a 5% cut and start a bidding war.  

My understanding of the issue is that the system is down until they can fix the vulnerability that was exploited - which is not as simple as restoring. 

Hey, now you all get to experience the same gas prices we've had here for the last year!

Also, some of the pipeline is multi fluid, so they ship things with plugs between them and pull things off of those streams at different places and all of it happens happens with pneumatically actuated valves and a really good sense of timing. What is in the pipe right now? How much can I take? How long to open the valve for that? When will the plug pass? What's next? When will the pipe have what I need next? 

It's not just a hose full of gasoline. Once everything stops/slows down they have to recalculate all of it. 

heard about it this afternoon, go figure I needed to fill up the Yaris anyways.  Gas station was a little backed up.

I am not particulary worried, but JIC I aired up my tires and begun shifting at 1900rpm again.  My grille blocks are still in place from winter.

I am in no hurry, and too damn broke to pay dumb prices