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captdownshift
captdownshift UberDork
10/14/16 7:10 p.m.

In reply to mblommel:

Step #1 win power ball

Step #2 stop at Mitsubishi dealership

Step #3 cages

Step #4 spec series

BrokenYugo
BrokenYugo UltimaDork
10/14/16 7:55 p.m.
WOW Really Paul? wrote: Any Dodge Ram with a Cummins engine.....

I thought it was the other way around, you're putting up with the POS Dodge truck because it's wrapped around a badass semi truck engine.

Chadeux
Chadeux HalfDork
10/14/16 8:16 p.m.

In reply to BrokenYugo:

This, I'm pretty sure Dodge would be out of the truck business if they hadn't made that deal with Cummins in the late 80s.

The real shame though is that Dodge didn't buy transmissions from Allison while they were at it.

WOW Really Paul?
WOW Really Paul? MegaDork
10/15/16 8:51 a.m.
BrokenYugo wrote:
WOW Really Paul? wrote: Any Dodge Ram with a Cummins engine.....
I thought it was the other way around, you're putting up with the POS Dodge truck because it's wrapped around a badass semi truck engine.

LoL, that's what Ram owners seem to think.......but the 6BT is a light duty and the C series is merely a medium duty engine. Very far from a "badass semi truck engine"

Wall-e
Wall-e MegaDork
10/15/16 9:29 a.m.
mblommel wrote: Are Mirages REALLY that awful? I think you can still get it with a manual tranny, that can't be all bad. I saw them lined up in front of the Mitsu dealer and they only other time I think I ever saw a lineup that colorful was back in 2006 at a Lotus dealer.

About 7-8 guys I work with have them. They got a good deal on them and treat them as disposables since they have long commutes and no one has had much trouble with them. Considering what they paid they've been decent little cars.

Ranger50
Ranger50 UltimaDork
10/15/16 9:43 a.m.

I can just name the manufacturers... Toyota, Nissan, Jeep, Kia....

I still can't find anything in their lineups that would purposely make me walk into their dealerships.

oldopelguy
oldopelguy UltraDork
10/15/16 11:35 a.m.
mblommel wrote: Are Mirages REALLY that awful? I think you can still get it with a manual tranny, that can't be all bad. I saw them lined up in front of the Mitsu dealer and they only other time I think I ever saw a lineup that colorful was back in 2006 at a Lotus dealer.

No, they aren't really that bad. The CVT is terrible, but in a cheap car it's going to be. With the manual transmission, assuming you can actually drive a manual, it's just like driving any mid-80's econobox, except with modern car features. Sure the electric power steering is a little odd at first and it leans a lot, but you get used to the steering and a rear sway bar fixes most of the handling issues for under $200.

The worst part of driving it is the smug sanctimonious looks you get from people constantly filling up their ratty 10-year old luxury cars while you drive past the gas station.

Rufledt
Rufledt UltraDork
10/15/16 1:05 p.m.
oldopelguy wrote: With the manual transmission, assuming you can actually drive a manual, it's just like driving any mid-80's econobox, except with modern car features.

So you're saying it's like driving my 323 GTX? I'll take twelve!!

G_Body_Man
G_Body_Man SuperDork
10/15/16 5:04 p.m.

In terms of the Mirage, they're dirt cheap used, and you can do some neat stuff with them.

+38 and +40 offset 15x7 wheels fit under the arches to accept tires wider than the stock 165 section, and Tein has a set of their entry-level Street Basis coilovers that fit. Apparently they aren't bad, and keep the ride in check better than the stock units while still being driveable every day.

Ultra Racing sells a rear sway bar that's apparently quite good. The easiest way to order it is through the ultraracing-autosport eBay distribution channel, otherwise you have to order it from Malaysia.

In total, figure around $2k for wheels, tires, coilovers, and a sway bar, and $8k for a 2 year old Mirage with less than 25k miles on the clock. For $10k all-in, you could have a car that feels crisp and light like an old Japanese hatchback, but isn't rusty or generally beat-up like an old Japanese hatchback would be.

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