JG Pasterjak
JG Pasterjak Production/Art Director
1/2/25 4:40 p.m.
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Our BMW 435i finished on the podium at last fall’s Tire Rack SCCA Time Trials Nationals, but that didn’t stop us from making more improvements.

[Third at the Time Trials Nats: How we intend to get even faster]

Because the intercooler install, along with many of our reliability mods, …

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David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
1/2/25 5:41 p.m.

And as JG just reminded everyone via the office’s group chat, he’s at the FIRM tomorrow. So, soon, we’ll know the answer.

I’m eager to see how the MCS setup tackles the curbs through the esses. 

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
1/2/25 5:42 p.m.

Also, JG, next time the car’s on the lift, let me know. I’d like to compare the rear setup to the one on my M3. (My rear Bilsteins use the factory perches.)

JG Pasterjak
JG Pasterjak Production/Art Director
1/3/25 9:33 a.m.

38 degrees at the FIRM. Humans are scientifically unable to survive at these temperatures. 

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
1/3/25 9:41 a.m.

In reply to JG Pasterjak :

Gotta break out the thermal cargo shorts. 

docwyte
docwyte UltimaDork
1/3/25 9:58 a.m.

MCS makes nice stuff and has brillant support.  I had them on my old E36 M3 track car and now have them on my 911.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
1/3/25 10:07 a.m.

Yeah, James at BimmerWorld has spoken highly of MCS shocks for many years.

Eager to see how they handle the curbs at the FIRM. As someone (JG) has told me, the more you can turn the esses into a straight, the faster you can go. 

codrus (Forum Supporter)
codrus (Forum Supporter) UltimaDork
1/3/25 1:13 p.m.
David S. Wallens said:

Yeah, James at BimmerWorld has spoken highly of MCS shocks for many years.

I have MCS on my E46 (duals w/ reservoir in my case) and they're amazing.  They do need a rebuild every 100 or so track hours, I'm not sure what that translates to in street miles.

 

JG Pasterjak
JG Pasterjak Production/Art Director
1/3/25 2:55 p.m.

So, initial impressions are overwhelmingly positive. Now that I have a few track miles and I know everything was installed properly, I can start working on getting the setup dialed, but there were a few pretty significant things I noticed on track.

First, spoiler alert, I didn't manage to lower the car's best lap today, but that was more a matter of track conditions. It was very cold, and very sandy, the tires are at the end of their useful life, and maybe the pads are as well. At any rate, a better lap wasn't out there today based on conditions. but i see a few things in the data on a quick first glance that tells me one definitely is out there. Although, even that said, the track has taken to throwing out some cones in key areas to prevent folks using too much curb, and there's one area in particular that I've had to alter my typical line pretty significantly. 

Anyway, the cool stuff: The final turn at the FIRM (or the first turn, if you;re using the new s/f line) has a bump right about at the end of the first phase of cornering. When you've made your full commitment and have transitioned back to throttle but haven't fully loaded on the throttle yet. With the former setup you'd have to modulate the throttle there to balance everything. Sometimes it would be to get the front to grip a bit more, sometimes it would be to get the rear to plant harder, but you pretty much always had to do a little double-tap when transitioning back to the gas. With the MCSs, you just don't. Like, the car still definitely heaves, it just doesn't affect the balance hardly at all. It lets you roll in to the gas much more progressively and get the car to take a set so much earlier in the corner.

The second big thing I noticed is at the spot where I mentioned before that they've been throwing cones out a lot. That's the final section of the esses where you clear out of the last S heading to the left and hit the brakes for the hairpin. Previously in the pre-cone days you were able to just jump that final S with the left side of the car, wait for the landing, then brake. Now you actually have to do some cornering to the left, but only after the car take a set from the previous jump with the right side. And the result of the landing of that jump could be pretty unpredictable, turning that brief cornering phase into kind of a guessing game. You'd land, try to get the car turned left to square up for the braking zone, but the right side of the car would still be doing a lot of stuff. The result ws typically thaat your line into the braking area varied quite a bit from lap to lap, and that short turning phase was more of a twitch than an actual cornering segment.

With the MCSs, though, the time between phases is reduced to almost nothing. As soon as the car lands you can get right into that short cornering phase and line things up perfectly every time. It's pretty uncanny, and it's kind of an indication that making improvements with the new hardware is going to come not only from hardware changes, but from me as a driver learning to trust the car  and not pre-emptively cover for the fact that it previously had trouble getting from phase to phase. Actually, I never felt like it had much trouble getting from phase to phase, but now that I drive it with the new dampers I realize how much time I spent waiting for one thing to end so I could start a new thing. 

So, yeah, big thumbs up all around so far. time for a more comprehensive setup and alignment, a few tweaks, and we go back with fresher gear and hopefully a better track next time.

docwyte
docwyte UltimaDork
1/3/25 4:33 p.m.

Yes, they do require maintenance, MCS said to have them rebuilt every 5 years or 30k miles I think

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