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Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner MegaDork
10/5/20 2:06 p.m.

My friend Eric (aka Ottawa on the forum) was telling me about his newly inherited MINI. Three cylinders - but it has five wheel studs. That just seems wrong to me. Only 60% as many cylinders as wheel studs. A four cylinder with a five bolt pattern has an 80% ratio. My MG and one of my Miatas have a 200% ratio. The Tesla has DIVIDE BY ZERO ERROR.

So what car has the most out of whack lug nut to cylinder ratio? Any production cars that are lower than 60%? 

L5wolvesf
L5wolvesf Reader
10/5/20 2:10 p.m.

Slow day huh? 

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner MegaDork
10/5/20 2:14 p.m.

I didn't spend a whole lot of time on this, Eric was looking for wheels and mentioned his three cylinder MINI used five lug wheels so I began to mock him for it. The rest of the research was done by thinking of my own cars :)

Saron81
Saron81 HalfDork
10/5/20 2:19 p.m.

This is the opposite... 4 cylinders, 3 studs! 

 

Do center lock wheels count?

buzzboy
buzzboy Dork
10/5/20 2:20 p.m.

An F150 7700 has 7 wheel studs and 8 cylinders. Not a lower ratio but a whacky one.

A Citroen 2cv with 3 wheel studs and 2 cylinders.

\/ My real answer. \/

A BMW i3 has 2 cylinders and 5 wheel studs though putting it at 40%!

eastsideTim
eastsideTim PowerDork
10/5/20 2:24 p.m.

How many lug nuts/bolts does an Isetta have?  It’s only got a 1 cylinder engine.

Ottawa
Ottawa Reader
10/5/20 2:25 p.m.

But what about a Turbo/Supercharger multiplier? Using hillclimb rules like:

  • Rotaries have the engine capacity multiplied by 1.8.
  • Turbo or supercharged have the engine capacity multiplied by 1.7
  • Turbo or supercharged rotaries have the engine capacity multiplied by 1.8 then 1.7 (net multiplier equals 3.06)

So my 3cyl is worth 3*1.7=5.1 so I'm at the correct amount of adjusted cylinders vs. lug nuts

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner MegaDork
10/5/20 2:28 p.m.
Saron81 said:

Do center lock wheels count?

Ooooooo, nice lateral move. That's going to give some real outliers.

Jesse Ransom
Jesse Ransom UltimaDork
10/5/20 2:28 p.m.

The Tesla's mathematically feasible, it's just 0%. smiley

I figure there are probably a bunch of medium or heavy duty trucks that hit 60% via big sixes and ten lugs, but that wasn't quite the question...

My MG, Wolseley, BMW, and pickup are tidily aligned at 100%. The Mini is just as observed; too weird to discuss. The Ranchero is a funky 160%...

Trent (Generally supportive dude)
Trent (Generally supportive dude) PowerDork
10/5/20 2:31 p.m.

Berkeley sport. 2 cylinder, 5 lug

Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa SuperDork
10/5/20 2:44 p.m.

My Mustang came with a 6 cyl and 4 lugs, a nice robust 150%

The Bond Minicar may be one of the winners here, single cylinder and either a 4 or 5 lug wheel.  Can't find a good enough picture of the wheels without the hubcaps on.

How are we scoring rotary engines?

Cactus
Cactus HalfDork
10/5/20 2:49 p.m.

My trailer has a single piston generator and 8 lug wheels. 12.5%

tuna55
tuna55 MegaDork
10/5/20 3:00 p.m.

https://www.corvettes.nl/gm_prototypes/stingray3/index.html

 

Three lug nuts, eight cylinders, and if memory serves, Zora refused to get his picture taken in front of it because of that mismatch.

Javelin (Forum Supporter)
Javelin (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
10/5/20 3:05 p.m.

Nissan and Toyota pickups cone with 4-cylinders and 6-lugs...

dps214
dps214 HalfDork
10/5/20 3:06 p.m.

911 GT3...600%

ProDarwin
ProDarwin MegaDork
10/5/20 3:09 p.m.

There are a fair amount of 4cyl trucks with 6 lug wheels (Taco, Hardbody, Dakota, etc.) (66%)

On the other end of trucks, 5 lug Tundras have a 8:5 ratio (160%)

Before Frenchy gets in here... XJS V12 has a 12:5 ratio (240%)

 

buzzboy
buzzboy Dork
10/5/20 3:26 p.m.

In reply to tuna55 :

At least the 3 lug wheels are on 3 spoke wheels.

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
10/5/20 3:27 p.m.

How about formula cars.  Some had V12 with a single knock-off nut.  1200%

Ian F (Forum Supporter)
Ian F (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
10/5/20 3:32 p.m.
Mr_Asa said:

My Mustang came with a 6 cyl and 4 lugs, a nice robust 150%

 

the 80's Mustang GT was a V8 with 4 lugs - so 200%. 

IIRC, it didn't get 5 lugs until the 1994 and the SN95? 

Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa SuperDork
10/5/20 3:49 p.m.

In reply to Ian F (Forum Supporter) :

No, V8s had 5 lug the first year, that went up until the Fox platform when they dropped down to 4 lugs.  I think the Mustang II had 5 lugs.

Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa SuperDork
10/5/20 3:53 p.m.

How do you score this?

10 lugs per 8 rollers, and 18 lugs on the drive sprockets, but one "wheel" and a jet turbine for an engine.

 

 

wae
wae UltraDork
10/5/20 3:54 p.m.

The B.U.T.T. has 10 cylinders and 8 lugs making it 125% more holes in a hub than in the block!

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
10/5/20 3:55 p.m.

Not sure if single-lug wheels count. Maybe that's like a separate class or something.

How about 10-lug wheels on a six-cylinder truck? Is there a four-cylinder variant? 

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
10/5/20 4:02 p.m.

How this? 

Javelin (Forum Supporter)
Javelin (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
10/5/20 4:25 p.m.

REPU has two rotors and six lugs.

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