Alfaromeoguy
Alfaromeoguy Reader
4/28/19 1:08 a.m.

Is there anybody that can section  out the hub section,and weld in a new one.  I need a space saver spare wheel. Tryed looking for a 16 in Ford focus 4x108 bolt pattern found 2, but when i got there, they were sold

 

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
4/28/19 5:04 a.m.

The current Ford Fiesta also uses 4x108.

I hopped www.car-part.com and searched 2016 Ford Fiesta wheel near Sacramento and came up with an aluminum spare tire wheel, with tire for $45 in Rancho Cordova. 

However it looks like stock spare tire is 15". Do you require 16"?

Knurled.
Knurled. MegaDork
4/28/19 5:31 a.m.

In reply to John Welsh :

Don't Fiestas have "full size" 15" spares?

 

I only ask for clarification because this came up to the RXRC.  The RallyCross Rules say that temporary spare wheels are not legal in any class, and in Stock (at the time) you must run the factory installed wheel size.  Someone with a FiST asked if running 15" wheels would be legal because Fiestas came with a NON-temporary 15" spare wheel and tire.  (My response was, since cars with staggered wheels must keep their staggered wheels, you can only run a differently-sized full size spare in its original configuration: in the trunk, or for its intended purpose of replacing one road wheel.  I forget what the final ruling was exactly, but teh FiST wasn't allowed 15s)

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
4/28/19 7:23 a.m.

Car-part.com gives images when you shop wheels so you can match up.  

In this case, for spare tire, it shows this 15x4 aluminum spare tire

Also shows a 15x4 steel spare

 

Then it also shows 15, 16, and 17" stock wheels.  None of this info tells me if some versions had full size spares.  However, when I found the aluminum 15" spare it was shown from pictures of a common sedan Fiesta, not a FiST

Patrick
Patrick MegaDork
4/28/19 7:29 a.m.

Ebay.  I buy spares often from them

Alfaromeoguy
Alfaromeoguy Reader
4/28/19 10:41 a.m.
John Welsh said:

The current Ford Fiesta also uses 4x108.

I hopped www.car-part.com and searched 2016 Ford Fiesta wheel near Sacramento and came up with an aluminum spare tire wheel, with tire for $45 in Rancho Cordova. 

However it looks like stock spare tire is 15". Do you require 16"?

Yes, but I need a 16 inch mini spare, the 15 inch mini, wound fit over my brakes

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
4/28/19 10:43 a.m.

Suck it up and buy a spare. Cutting out the hub and welding in a new one sounds like a horrible idea.

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
4/28/19 10:57 a.m.
Alfaromeoguy said:
John Welsh said:

The current Ford Fiesta also uses 4x108.

I hopped www.car-part.com and searched 2016 Ford Fiesta wheel near Sacramento and came up with an aluminum spare tire wheel, with tire for $45 in Rancho Cordova. 

However it looks like stock spare tire is 15". Do you require 16"?

Yes, but I need a 16 inch mini spare, the 15 inch mini, wound fit over my brakes

Then, a 16" road going wheel from any Fiesta could be your spare.  

Alfaromeoguy
Alfaromeoguy Reader
4/28/19 1:14 p.m.

Thanks guys, I was just trying to save some weight in the rear of my car.

iceracer
iceracer UltimaDork
4/28/19 6:04 p.m.

The 108 wheels on Fords go back a way back.   I have '97 Contour winter wheels.

Maybe all Focus.

I believe only the FiST has a 15" spare wheel.

Knurled.
Knurled. MegaDork
4/28/19 6:34 p.m.
Alfaromeoguy said:

Thanks guys, I was just trying to save some weight in the rear of my car.

You may be surprised at how heavy those spares can be.  They are space saver spares, not weight saver.

Alfaromeoguy
Alfaromeoguy Reader
4/28/19 6:38 p.m.

Out to the wreckers,I go. Thanks to all of you 

Knurled.
Knurled. MegaDork
4/28/19 6:38 p.m.
iceracer said:

The 108 wheels on Fords go back a way back.   I have '97 Contour winter wheels.

Maybe all Focus.

I believe only the FiST has a 15" spare wheel.

All Ford-designed cars with four lug are 4x4.25", with the exception of a couple years of early Mustang/Falcon.  (It took a bit for Ford of US to fall in line with Ford of UK smiley )  This means Fiestas, Focuses, Contours (Mondeos), non-Mazda Escorts (including the Mk1/Mk2 rear drivers), Capri, Sierra (XR4Ti)... everything.

 

Moreover, as I discovered while on a parts swapping expedition, all front wheel drive based cars (slide on brake rotors/drums) have the same 63mm rotor/drum pilot (the wheel pilot is 62mm).  So you could, say, fit Cougar brake rotors on an '83 Escort hub.  Or vise-versa.

 

edit:  Had a thought, and SN95 front spindles are 34.4mm and Contour rear spindles are 35mm.  So with a slim piece of shim stock to take up the slack, you probably could convert an SN95 to 4x4.25 so you could put updated suspension geometry and superior brake rotor and wheel bearing design on a Fox-body without having to go to five lug wheels.

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
4/28/19 6:40 p.m.

When the manufacturers want weight savings they just add fix a flat and maybe an air compressor. (Yeah, I know, not really a substitute for a spare tire.) 

ebonyandivory
ebonyandivory PowerDork
4/29/19 7:14 a.m.
John Welsh said:

When the manufacturers want weight savings they just add fix a flat and maybe an air compressor. (Yeah, I know, not really a substitute for a spare tire.) 

I almost posted the same thing. For the times I’ve been driving and needed a spare tire... like twice in 30 years.

I usually dump the factory jack, buy some Fix A Flat and always have AAA anyway.

What kind of weight could one possibly save by using a lighter spare? Two lbs tops? Ditching the jack AND the spare altogether however...

Alfaromeoguy
Alfaromeoguy Reader
4/29/19 3:41 p.m.

Sorry, this is for my Alfa Romeo spider. The 15 Ford mini spare  will not fit over my brakes. Sorry for the confusion. I have found one or two, but when i call/ email they are gone or they try to tell me I need a 15 inch spare.

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